Moray towers - what the heck?

[Flair]

Does this happen to other people? When Moray towers is on rotation it is selected far more often than the other map. It's bloody annoying!

 

[Либра]

I've had similar experiences with lots of rotations across the board. There's a stage I like and one I hate in the rotation? It'll be fine, right? No, let's give me my hated map ten times in a row. Had this comically often in league, arguably ranked, but with turf I either don't play these particular combinations or don't take count but yes, sometimes even if you stay in the same lobby, it can feel very lopsided. More often than not it's just our imagination since we tend to focus on the negative a lot more than the normal. Map you're fine with? Keep going. Moray? Auughhh!

Or maybe that's just me. Whenever I look up my battle log in the app, it turns out to be rather balanced most of the time. Now I don't blame you for thinking Moray has some kind of evil aura and came straight from hell to take over rotations on its own but since I had that issue with Reef, Port and other maps this myth seems debunked for now. :D

So in other words yes, sometimes you can end up with like 70% one map, 30% the other. While unlikely, it's still possible to happen. Sometimes you do flip heads or tails super often compared to the other. Also, duck Moray.

 

[Spaceswitchmars]

That's just probability at play. Probability isn't the same as inevitability. Even if both maps have even chances to be picked, that doesn't mean they'll be picked at the same rate.

Really, Nintendo should write in a fail safe where the same map can't be picked in the same lobby three times in a row. If you play one map twice, you automatically play on the other map in the third game. Something like that could be nice.

 

[Mr. Squiggly Squid]

Also, duck Moray.

 

[Dessgeega]

That's just probability at play. Probability isn't the same as inevitability. Even if both maps have even chances to be picked, that doesn't mean they'll be picked at the same rate.

Really, Nintendo should write in a fail safe where the same map can't be picked in the same lobby three times in a row. If you play one map twice, you automatically play on the other map in the third game. Something like that could be nice.

I would love for this to be real, but sadly, it can't work. People rotate in and out of lobbies so often that people either won't be around for the failsafe or lobby hop too much for it to ever happen. And League, lacking persistent lobbies entirely, wouldn't benefit. Again, I love your idea and wish it could be real, but we'll have to live with getting the same stage 5 times in a row. It's partially perception, as looking at match stats like Libra said reveals it usually evens out in the end, but it sure doesn't seem that way when stages repeat, does it?

 

[Spaceswitchmars]

I would love for this to be real, but sadly, it can't work. People rotate in and out of lobbies so often that people either won't be around for the failsafe or lobby hop too much for it to ever happen. And League, lacking persistent lobbies entirely, wouldn't benefit. Again, I love your idea and wish it could be real, but we'll have to live with getting the same stage 5 times in a row. It's partially perception, as looking at match stats like Libra said reveals it usually evens out in the end, but it sure doesn't seem that way when stages repeat, does it?

Yup. That's just probability at play. Over time, a coin flip evens out to close to 50/50, but it doesn't feel that way when you flip heads five times in a row.

They could implement a fail safe in turf wars, but you're absolutely right about ranked/league. The player base isn't big enough to say, "Okay, Space just played Moray twice in a row so we'll only put him in a lobby where Kelp is being played next." And there aren't persistent lobbies in ranked S2 like there were in S1... So yeah, excellent points all around.

 

[herrherr]

I thought this was just me! I actually like Moray, but I started noticing it seemed to get selected far more often than its counterpart when I play.

 

[Flair]

In my last 50 matches, Moray towers was in rotation for 19 of those matches

Maray towers selected 14 times
The other map selected 5 times

Moray towers blows. I'd rather play Saltspray rig and that map sucked.

 

[Либра]

In my last 50 matches, Moray towers was in rotation for 19 of those matches

Maray towers selected 14 times
The other map selected 5 times

Moray towers blows. I'd rather play Saltspray rig and that map sucked.

That's really unfortunate. Seems you're about as lucky as I am with my recent Saltfest luck this weekend. If this keeps being the norm for you I'd strongly advise you to either change the mode or take a break when Moray is in the rotation so you can avoid it. There's no need to force yourself to deal with a map you're not enjoying to play in, it's rather unhealthy for your overall game-experience. Unless you have a strong reason to keep playing even with Moray in the rotation, e.g. if you're planning on going competitive. Otherwise I really don't see why you should put yourself through this for no good reason, lol.
I really liked Saltspray tho. :<

 

[Flair]

I'm grinding for chunks. It's all about the chunks.

 

[Sifu]

I would love for this to be real, but sadly, it can't work. People rotate in and out of lobbies so often that people either won't be around for the failsafe or lobby hop too much for it to ever happen. And League, lacking persistent lobbies entirely, wouldn't benefit. Again, I love your idea and wish it could be real, but we'll have to live with getting the same stage 5 times in a row. It's partially perception, as looking at match stats like Libra said reveals it usually evens out in the end, but it sure doesn't seem that way when stages repeat, does it?

What!? I've stayed in a lobby for 3 games in a row. Heck, I've been in a lobby with the same people for much longer than that! That said, I don't think that's really the best solution.

A different solution could be to keep track of how many times every player has seen each level, and pick whichever one has been played least on average (Or at least lean in that direction)

 

[Nathan99]

That's just probability at play. Probability isn't the same as inevitability. Even if both maps have even chances to be picked, that doesn't mean they'll be picked at the same rate.

Really, Nintendo should write in a fail safe where the same map can't be picked in the same lobby three times in a row. If you play one map twice, you automatically play on the other map in the third game. Something like that could be nice.

I agree. Or at least, the system could be weighted random.

 

[Ember-Wisp]

Does this happen to other people? When Moray towers is on rotation it is selected far more often than the other map. It's bloody annoying!

I've noticed this too, but with different maps. The new (old) map they just released keeps popping up a lot for me. and I keep getting my butt kicked on it... so it's getting old to say the least.

 

[MindWanderer]

They could easily do: once the lobby is full, look at the last 3 games from each player, then weight the randomness accordingly. Say out of the last collective 24 games 17 of them were Map A and 7 were Map B, they could weight the RNG so that Map A would have a 7/24 chance of being selected and Map B a 17/24 chance.

 

[ThatOneGuy]

Looking back at some of my previous league sessions with some people from here, I've been getting Splat Zones with either HumpBack, Moray, or even a combination of the two.

It has been done multiple times, it's happened about 5 times (in a row) now. I have also tried to vary the times I get online so maybe I can get a different rotation, but no. I still get Zones on those maps. The funniest part is that I hate zones. It's the worst out of all 3 ranked modes for me, and I tend to under perform there the most. So maybe the game looks out for me and tries to remedy this through strenuous practice.

But yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I see moray pretty much every time I play the game, but I haven't seen black belly since the week it got put back in the game.

 

[Sifu]

Looking back at some of my previous league sessions with some people from here, I've been getting Splat Zones with either HumpBack, Moray, or even a combination of the two.

It has been done multiple times, it's happened about 5 times (in a row) now. I have also tried to vary the times I get online so maybe I can get a different rotation, but no. I still get Zones on those maps. The funniest part is that I hate zones. It's the worst out of all 3 ranked modes for me, and I tend to under perform there the most. So maybe the game looks out for me and tries to remedy this through strenuous practice.

But yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I see moray pretty much every time I play the game, but I haven't seen black belly since the week it got put back in the game.

Funny. TC is my worst mode, and I play it exclusively right now. But that’s on purpose, since I want to get good at it.

 

[Flair]

So my Switch went in for repairs. It took 3 weeks minus a day to be returned back to me. I totally forgot how slanted the odds are in picking Moray. So far I'm 6 for 6 for picking this garbage map. I'm not pushing my luck to see if I get a 7th Moray in a row.

 

[Ron'NeilV3]

Does this happen to other people? When Moray towers is on rotation it is selected far more often than the other map. It's bloody annoying!

YES! Omg! I thought I was the only one lol.

Like I would go there 10 times in a row, then when I finally go to the other stage, it’ll only be for that one time. Nd it doesn’t help that I absolutely HATE Moray Towers. So usual when I see it on rotation I don’t even bother playing.