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Smash 5 Predictions and discussions

Discussion in 'The Crispy Calamari - Off-Topic Discussion' started by Saber, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Saber

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    Hey everyone, now that the hype has cooled down a little I wanted to share my opinion on upcoming smash bros game this has been a hot topic among the smash bros community, and has even tied our favorite the inkling into the smash scene.

    So here are my predictions, my personal feelings, and my hope for what will come out in this new iteration

    First off, this I believe will be a new game
    I have said this across multiple threads and here is my reasoning,

    1. 8 player smash, right now the Nintendo switch isn't compatible to play 8 player, even if it was 4 players would either have to use the independant joycons, so due to this right now a major component of smash 4 would be completely taken out...they might be working on a way to make this possible but right now I don't see this as a viable option

    2. It has been 4 years since smash 4 released, yeah they have maintained and balanced the game for quite some time after it's release but you do not need a whole team of developers and programmers to do that (not cost effective), likely quite a few of these people began work on the next game or other project shortly after the initial release

    3. Mashahiro Sakurai is returning......if this was simply a smash 4 port why would he need to return? Most of the works of his previous game would have carried over and the team could have easily just add in a few new characters. The facts that he is returning in any capacity that he will be spearheading the development of what will likely be a entirely new game.

    4. Licensing smash 4 is impressive, but will Nintendo be able to keep it's cast of characters, cloud was put in as partial promo for the FF7 remake (which has still yet to have any details about it's release). Bandai Namco is no longer shown as working on this title whihc mean Pacman might not make the cut, and other character (greninja, lucina, dark pit, and dr. mario) are likely going to have to be weighed and removed due to to other circumstances. (sorry to kill a few dreams, I hate to do that). So there are likely going to be a few holes open for new faces and returning character to fill.

    Whether this game is a Splatoon 2 (which kinda felt like a 1.5 and grew into it's own game) or a standalone sequel to it's predecessor there 1 thing for certain this is a new game

    My Dreams
    Amiibo costume saving: Between botw, mario odyessy and Splatoon 2 you have so many unique costume and variants that you can mix and match, one thing I'd love to see is being able to save said costume and place them in a unique amiibo costume slot to give the player some customization options, and a closer attachment to their character.

    The Odyessy (map): I have been thinking about all the many places you explore in odyessy but none can do it quite as well as a flight on the odyessy through the iconic locations... I am not a big fan of moving stages but I would love to see the view that mario saw as he took off on his adventure.

    Hyrule castle/ Divine Beast (map): these would be large maps like hyrule temple, and don't need much of a gimmick, but seeing this small callout to BOTW would be great

    Octolings: I am greedy, I don't care, since the inlings made it in have an octoling variant skin in game...goes a long way to promote them in S2

    Blight Gannon: A re-skin over the classic villan would be great and with so many imposing bosses it would be cool to see a few new skins to reference them, it would be even better to see new abilities to reference them but I'll take what I can get

    Link RNG: Link has always been a consistent character with little to no change, but let's make him a little more random, add rng to his bow, and his smash attacks,have a durability to his moves add to the uniqueness, it might make link a little more tricky to play but he could a very unique zoning charcter that is hard to predict and dangerous to misstep against

    Predicitons:
    Champions Botw: I hate to say it but likely not going to be playable chacters they all are so unique and having them all in game would be impossible but they could be an assist trophy, and you know what I would be okay with that (Falco is a little annoying but I'd like to see him actually do something)

    Arms: these guys come from a flop of a fighting game, I am sad to see it end that way for them so why not bring over a stretchy fighter into the smash bros game they would fit right in with their unique mechanics and could preserve them until a sequel can improve their IP.

    Rex and Pyra: shulk made us feel it, but these character would offer another unique take on the ice climber mechanic both rely on each other to battle so seeing them work together would be fun.

    Anyways these are my feelings feel free to share what you would like to see or other opinions you have towards the game or charcters


    *****Also I got tickets to E3 so I will give you guys if possible a sneak peek at the new smash bros and their roster while I am there
     
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    Yin_ Inkling Cadet

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    You better you lucky boi! :p
     
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    Bandanna Waddle Dee.

    That is all.
     
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    Chaos_Knight Inkling Commander

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    True but I am too lazy rework and edit my smash boards account, plus it was inkling in the trailer....that's our turf :p
     
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    Goont Inkling Cadet

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    I predict I will main Inkling. 99% sure on this prediction, can confirm from a verified source.
     
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    Chaos_Knight Inkling Commander

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    ...Except you went on mentioning things are non-Splatoon related, on a Splatoon dedicated forum. :p
     
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    Amen to that. I can't wait until this weekend when Star Allies comes out. Seeing Bandanna Waddle Dee and the rest of the dream friends in the direct was the third best thing I got out of it (well, fourth if you split splatoon into the April update and Octo Expansion).
     
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    Snipperclips as an assist trophy or stage would be lit.
     
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    Other than maybe moving the thread to Off-Topic so we can discuss anything beyond Splatoon-related Smash content, I don't think it's too far a stretch to discuss the upcoming Smash on these boards in general, especially after the most anticipated Inkling debut. :D

    Here's the things I'm personally hoping for:
    • Splattack! should make it into the game in any way.
      It is and shall forever be the title song of the franchise. I'm not feeling the same for the S2 title track despite not hating on it per say.
    • A dedicated Sploon stage.
      Not sure about which one though. It can either be somewhere in Inkopolis (the square would mean a lack of a ground to fall down to, though) or some nod to Octo Valley stages which have way more freedom to be crazy. Any stage being reworked would work fine for me,
    • Squidbagging should be a taunt. :D
      Nuff said. It's become so iconic that it would be a missed opportunity NOT to inklude it.
    • Kraken, Inkzooka or anything of the like would make for a gr8 final smash.
      Since the first two are only S1 specials that didn't make a comeback, not sure how likely their inclusion would be sadly.
    • Splatoon items:
      The charger could work similar to how the super scope works/worked (haven't played the recent installments :c ), curling bombs, or double-nods like the N-Zap would be quite fun. Any Splatoon bomb sub weapon, and lots of Splatoon weapons would work quite well. I'm not too picky in what they'd choose but I'm really hoping for one or two Spl00n items to make it into the game.
    • Octolings as either costumes or future characters that get patched in later.
      Since the Octo expansion isn't out yet I don't think they'll be in the first release of the game yet since the models are too different. It'd be a nice surprise to see them inkluded anyway though even though I'm not the biggest fan of the boy's promo hairstyle.
    As for non-Splatoon related predictions, I have none honestly, but that's mostly due to my lack of having played the game post-melee. I didn't own a Wii, and never bought Smash for the Wii U and only played that one sporadically, so I have next to no idea about the is-state. I like the idea of Rex and Pyra making it into the game in a similar fashion as the ice climbers did, and I'm hoping for the Fire Emblem love to continue being a thing. Just stop with the Marth clones aaaaa.
     
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    There might be "canned specials" as field items. S2 specials would work well for that, Tenta Missiles and Stingray especially.

    But otherwise I'm expecting to see them as normal attacks. The Kraken (supersized) should definitely be the Final Smash, although Killer Wail would be pretty cool as an alternate. Inkjet will probably be the Up+B attack. Most of the quick A attacks will probably be Inkbrush swings, the smash attacks will be Roller flicks, and the Splattershot, Slosher, and Charger will probably be neutral, down, and forward+B (maybe not respectively). The normal block will be a Bubbler, and the dodge will be a Dualie roll that combos into dualie fire.
     
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    MeTaGross Inkling Cadet

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    I really wanted to see inklings in smash 4, but I never thought they would make it to a smash game at all, so this news is very cool. I honestly don't know how most attacks would work, but roller and inkbrush swings as A attacks would make a lot of sense. Maybe the charger could operate as a B attack similar to Link's bow, where charging longer makes it shoot farther, like a charger. Maybe some of the aerials/grabs/smash attacks will be the inkling firing their splattershot at point blank, like Samus. I think the most logical choice for the final smash is to bring back the kraken, as I think it is the most iconic special in the games. No matter what they do, I think they will execute it very well and the inklings should be one of the more unique characters, especially if they can find a way to make the floors ink-able.
     
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    I came up with a slight idea of what the moveset could look like it is a little much and likely will be different for the end product

    Inkling moveset
    Up Special: Super jump
    Down special: Bomb (Rng between various bombs)
    Neutral special: Fires charger
    Side special: turns into inkling

    Side smash: roller smash
    Up smash: Bucket slosh
    Down smash: blaster shot in both direction

    A button: shoots main weapon
    Side tilt: shoots brella parasol
    Down tilit: pokes with inkbrush
    Up tilit: sloshing machine splash

    Neutral air: dulies spin
    Up- air: ?
    D-air: dunks with dynamo
    F-air: squeezer snipe
    B-air: smacks openents with octobrush

    Special inkling has whole team activate their special to attack the enemy
    -Or-
    Inklings burst the Rainmaker shield and picks up the rainmaker and launches a flury of shots at thr enemy
     
  14. MINKUKEL

    MINKUKEL Inkling Fleet Admiral

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    My one hope...my only dream...the ONE thing I want this Smash...is for the roster not to be leaked beforehand. There were ZERO characters I unlocked in Smash 4 that came as a surprise. DLC announcements were cool, but those aren't surprise unlocks either.

    You thought Nintendo's most popular IP in years, the one they've been treating as being on-par with other mainstay Nintendo titles, the series that's surely among the top 5 most popular Nintendo series in Japan would never make it to a Smash game!? Wii Fit Trainer is in Smash!

    I literally can't think of a more predictable newcomer.
     
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    What about Duck Hunt? I don't think he was leaked before launch.
     
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    MINKUKEL Inkling Fleet Admiral

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    No, the entire roster was leaked.
     
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    MeTaGross Inkling Cadet

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    I mean, I love Nintendo and all, but they do some really stupid things sometimes. Plus, we do have to remember that Bayonetta was added to smash, and that is less than PG. They do some really weird stuff, like including jigglypuff in every game.
     
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    Right, Nintendo does stupid and weird stuff, but not 'let's exclude our biggest series since 2001 from Smash' stupid and weird.

    In Japan, Splatoon is being treated as being on par with Mario and Animal Crossing and series like that.

    And don't hate on Jiggly! That's a character that was one of the original 12, of course they're gonna keep her.
     
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    I guess I didn't really think about any of what I said logically, but I'm past the point of logic. I've reached a mindset where I think that if I like something then it won't get the treatment I want it to.

    Also, I do know about the sales of Splatoon, but a lot of my friends really like Nintendo, but none of them owned a Wii U, so outside of the sales figures I don't really know much about the game's popularity.

    Also don't think I hate jigglypuff, I just wish they would replace it with something better. I'm a big Pokemon fan.
     
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    Squid sisters as DLC characters?
     
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    I predict at least three boring Fire Emblem characters and one or two ugly Xenoblade 2 character. We are probably not getting Elma, Nintendo likely forgot Xenoblade X is a thing, at this point.

    Also, of course a new Pokémon, because why not.
    I would rather have Octolings.
     
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    Or even better: Squid Sisters as not dlc characters
     
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    Outside of the mainstays like smash bros and mariokart, splatoon had the most sales on the wiiu and is one of the few things that kept the consel afloat

    Clearly someone has never played melee.....

    Lol I get why you wouldn't want jiggypuff there so many more unique pokemon and simply put a lot of cooler pokemon with better abilities that could fit the lineup.
    But in all honestly I feel that jiggypuff fits the lineup pretty well...you go up against a legendary pokemon like mewtwo and you beat him with a narcoleptic pink puffball.

    @Relia
    I....actually like most of the fire emblem characters Ike and Roy have both been my mains for quite some time and they all have a unique take on the idea of sword based characters
    (ike is powerful but slow, corrin is 1/2 dragon, roy has lots of damage at the risk of close quarter combat, marth has some tips:D, robin uses tomes and require you manage abilities wisely, and lucinea help players learn and balance their skills with a sword)

    I do feel Xenoblade X deserves some recognition, but due to it being on a dead system rn it will either be ported or forgotten (kinda sad), but Xenoblade chronicles 2 from what I've seen is a grest game and would love to see some recognition for it since shulk made it in
     
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    I think Nintendo realised that more people want Splatoon/ splatoon 2 characters than Xenoblade in the new smash.

    I would be surprised if they went further than putting inkling boy/girl into the game on release though
     
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    Inklings in SSB5? Why, they were already in SSB4! In the form of horror and suffering!

    I'm more surprised that people didn't see this coming. Splatoon has been a wildly successful sleeper hit, so them being the very first newcomers to SSB5 shouldn't be a shocking revelation to anyone. I think Nintendo must've been so giddy about adding them to the roster is why they managed to use the Miis as a faux placeholder until the sequel comes along.

    Add in Waluigi and i'm pre-ordering this thing the first chance i'll get.

    I'm still hyped about this btw
     
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    My friend, I have terrible news. There is going to be so many Smash leaks, so many, that you won;t even know which ones are legitimate and which ones aren't. As a matter of fact, as I type this very post, there is some Smash "leak" being posted on the internet. The mystery of the Smash roster is truly a memory of the Melee days.

    There's actually a lot of thought put into these decisions. Sakurai basically has a set list of rules when it comes to Smash. The character has to:
    A. Have a history in gaming
    B. Have a fan-following
    C. Have a fun-playstyle
    Check out this article on Source Gaming. However, this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to how the roster is decided.

    Also, Jigglypuff was put in Smash 64 because she was a fan-favorite at the time. The world of 1998 only had so many pokemon. Actually, She was nearly cut from Brawl and Wii U. She was added near the end of development as a last-minute decision. So many times has poor Jiggly been put on the chopping block.
    [​IMG]
    Now that is something we wouldn't want cut from the roster.
     
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    Of course there's going to be tons of fake leaks, but I don't care about those. Those after all don't actually spoil anything, and are usually debunked quickly enough.

    Smash is a huge deal and a lot people will definitely want to know the roster beforehand, but I don't know if that makes actual leaks that much more likely. I mean, it makes it more likely than leaks for a game that nobody cares about, but it's not like every major Nintendo game leaks important info beforehand.
    The problem is that once a true leak pops up somewhere, it's most likely impossible to avoid it altogether. If a leak pops up mere weeks before the release of Smash 5, I'm gonna take a break from the internet altogether. If it leaks like two months in advance though...I'm just going to be very selective and hope people don't talk about it in places where you wouldn't expect it.

    The thing is, Smash is like my favorite series out there, and it would just be very cool to once, just once, unlock something that actually surprises me.
     
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    I haven't really thought about it much, but there ware two things I wanna see:

    Mario have SMO related moves. I know they probably don't wanna shake up a character whose kit is the same sine the beginning (Basically) but I'd really like to see something involving Cappy.

    Inkling hairstyles. We know Inklings are in, but will their alternate colors have different hair styles? And if so which one gets to be purple? Similarly, Octolings?
     
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    @Amarae
    Cappy's main thing is capturing others, so I don't really think he's going to be involved in the moveset. Maybe he can pop off Mario's head for a taunt or something.

    As for Inkling hair, there's 8 hairstyles and in Smash 4 at least there were 8 colors for characters. It's probably going to be at least the orange girl and blue boy inkling with their respective hairstyles, and the pink girl and green boy from Splatoon 2 with their respective hairstyles. Then the other ones will just be 4 random colors with the remaining 4 hairstyles. I'm more interested in the gear they'll be wearing. Probably the orange/blue/pink/green ones will be wearing what they're wearing on the Splatoon 1 and 2 boxarts.
     
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    Actually what could be cool is to see mario's final smash change to reflecr SMO, have him toss his hat and then use the various enemies you capture in game to deal massive damage to your enemy, ending of course witht the classsic T-Rex charge.

    I also think it would be cool to see a broodal assist trophy, I think it would be cool to see them in game as well due to their unique abilities....but I think other characters would fit far better in the roster
     
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    Sorry to necro, but HOLY SHIZ PEOPLE.

     
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    Yeeeeah boi! I think Bear and Bird would have some legit moves, I think he'd be awesome in Smash. Also pls pls pls gibe map to go with him of Treasure Trove Cove!
     
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    cmon guys we dont need banjo kazooie we already have
    d u c k h u n t
     
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    A Salmon Run level where you have to deal with tide and Chum would be hilarious.
     
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    I just read a few posts i missed here and FIRST OF ALL i will not be buying this game if they cut jigglypuff. It will be garbage if the best most iconic character is gone.

    SECOND: tHEY SHOULD TOTALLY ADD BUBBLE BLOWER AS A WEAPON.... the bubbles could behave like smash balls in that attacking inside them would do damage and eventually explode them... whether enemy attacks should fizzle them out is debatable
     
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    I know this is out of the blue, but what about James Bond (GoldenEye 64) for Smash? He could use his weapons and gadgets for unique attacks, and he WAS considered for Melee at one point, so there is a teeny chance he could make it.
     
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