At Target the Smash Splat Bundle was a total success!

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That sounds good. Wonder if the recent pushes for both might have something to do with it.

Although I'm rather surprised the other consoles didn't sell better than the U, what with it being a dying console & all.
 

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If I didn't already have a Wii U, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. That's an amazing deal and you get two very high profile games with it. I'm not surprised it's selling out fast. That also means more players to take on down the road in Splatoon which is always nice.
 

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Yeah, I've already experienced something like that by checking the plaza. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing more of those guys soon!
 

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Yes! Success!

Shame the Smash players won't be getting a GameCube adapter with it, but oh well.
Is it really that popular? I haven't used a Gamecube controller since Melee. I find it weird a whole major gaming franchise can get tied to one control scheme. Are there any other ones like this (besides PC gaming)?

By the way, there is a commercial for of the Wii U holidays in general, which showcases Splatoon, Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, and Super Mario Maker.

 

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If anyone had any interest in the Wii U, that bundle is too perfect to pass up. There are very few people who can turn down Smash Bros., and Splatoon seems to be held in high regard as far as I can tell. I've seen a lot people online say they would like to try it, but couldn't since they do not have a Wii U.

Nice to see the Wii U get some love. As an owner of all three of the current consoles, the Wii U is by far my favorite in terms of its library of games. Which is the most important part of a console to me.
 

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Is it really that popular? I haven't used a Gamecube controller since Melee. I find it weird a whole major gaming franchise can get tied to one control scheme. Are there any other ones like this (besides PC gaming)?
It's very popular!

The Wii U GamePad in particular is basically unplayable when it comes to Smash. Great for almost everything else.
 

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It's very popular!

The Wii U GamePad in particular is basically unplayable when it comes to Smash. Great for almost everything else.
Seriously? I only use the Wii U GamePad when I'm playing. It's simply bigger and heavier, that's all. (For the record, I used only the Nunchuk and Wii Remote scheme in Brawl with Shake Smash on; I did this intentionally to distance the feel of the game away from Melee.) Considering I play Mario Kart 8 with the Wii U GamePad with motion steering always on, the GamePad's bulkiness is unnoticeable to me by this point.

It's something that's been bugging me for a while regarding Smash Bros.: This Gamecube controller idolatry comes off to me as an unwillingness to let go and try something new. That being said, people don't seem to have much complaints about the controls for Super Smash Bros. for 3DS, which you can't use a Gamecube controller on.
 

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It's something that's been bugging me for a while regarding Smash Bros.: This Gamecube controller idolatry comes off to me as an unwillingness to let go and try something new. That being said, people don't seem to have much complaints about the controls for Super Smash Bros. for 3DS, which you can't use a Gamecube controller on.
People have lots of complaints about the 3DS version! No one likes the lack of the second stick, and I don't like how it and Kid Icarus Uprising destroyed my 3DS.
 

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Huh, is that so? It's sold really well and I never have problems finding people playing on it to this day, so there must be a lot of satisfied people nonetheless.

I always had the impression that Gamecube controller purists tend to be the hardcore or the superfans. Nevertheless, I do have a few 3rd-party adapters for Gamecube controllers if someone wants to play Super Smash Bros. for Wii U in this way.
 

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Huh, is that so? It's sold really well and I never have problems finding people playing on it to this day, so there must be a lot of satisfied people nonetheless.

I always had the impression that Gamecube controller purists tend to be the hardcore or the superfans. Nevertheless, I do have a few 3rd-party adapters for Gamecube controllers if someone wants to play Super Smash Bros. for Wii U in this way.
I was also immediately turned off back during E3 2014 with Smash at Best Buy. They gave us the Wii U Pro Controllers and no one playing knew what the heck to do with them. And we all had VERY EXTENSIVE Smash experience with GCN controllers!
 

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Heh, at the GameStop midnight release of Brawl, everyone was given Nunchuk-Wiimotes to use. That was what gave me the idea of just using that scheme from then on.
 

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And not the Wii Remote by itself?

For every Wii game I played prior to Brawl, by the way, I'd use the Wii Remote or the Nunchuk scheme, with motion controls if applicable. I got used to it in about a day. The only big things to get used to were Shake Smash and that the jump button was on the Nunchuk; everything else, I customized to how I like it.

(For the record my scheme is as such: On the Nunchuk, control stick is move, C is jump, and Z is shield. On the Wii Remote, A is normal attack, B (the trigger button) is special attack, all four D-Pad buttons are grab, + is pause, - is unused, 1 is up-taunt, 2 is down-taunt, and 1 and 2 together are forwards taunt. With Shake Smash on and me having been very used to motion controls, I could do anything with the Nunchuk scheme that the Gamecube scheme could. After about a week or so, I became more relaxed with this scheme and no longer had to keep my left and right hands together when playing.

Supposedly, there is some kind of small button lag caused by the Nunchuk scheme being wireless, but I've never felt it and never even knew about it until I saw the EVO rules.

What is the difference between Gamecube controllers and Wii U Pro controllers? Isn't the Wii U Pro controller supposed to imitate a Gamecube controller? As far as I've experienced they seem to be about the same to me, though the Wii U Pro controller is somewhat heavier.

By the way, one more anecdote: At Comic-Con 2014, they had a Mario Kart 8 tournament in the Nintendo room. Of the 64 entrants, I was the only one to actively seek out the Wii U GamePad, as it was the only one with motion control steering. Everyone else used a Wii U Pro controller. In other words, I was the lone motion steering player in the group of 64. I won the whole thing.
 

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And not the Wii Remote by itself?

For every Wii game I played prior to Brawl, by the way, I'd use the Wii Remote or the Nunchuk scheme, with motion controls if applicable. I got used to it in about a day. The only big things to get used to were Shake Smash and that the jump button was on the Nunchuk; everything else, I customized to how I like it.

(For the record my scheme is as such: On the Nunchuk, control stick is move, C is jump, and Z is shield. On the Wii Remote, A is normal attack, B (the trigger button) is special attack, all four D-Pad buttons are grab, + is pause, - is unused, 1 is up-taunt, 2 is down-taunt, and 1 and 2 together are forwards taunt. With Shake Smash on and me having been very used to motion controls, I could do anything with the Nunchuk scheme that the Gamecube scheme could. After about a week or so, I became more relaxed with this scheme and no longer had to keep my left and right hands together when playing.

Supposedly, there is some kind of small button lag caused by the Nunchuk scheme being wireless, but I've never felt it and never even knew about it until I saw the EVO rules.

What is the difference between Gamecube controllers and Wii U Pro controllers? Isn't the Wii U Pro controller supposed to imitate a Gamecube controller? As far as I've experienced they seem to be about the same to me, though the Wii U Pro controller is somewhat heavier.

By the way, one more anecdote: At Comic-Con 2014, they had a Mario Kart 8 tournament in the Nintendo room. Of the 64 entrants, I was the only one to actively seek out the Wii U GamePad, as it was the only one with motion control steering. Everyone else used a Wii U Pro controller. In other words, I was the lone motion steering player in the group of 64. I won the whole thing.
(Oh, I meant: Nunchuk + Wiimote felt like a handicap. As did just Wiimote. So when I was playing at very casual friends I did use those handicap control schemes to sandbag.)
I'll use pictures instead of words for your question.




So yeah... those are actually substantially different.

I really like the Wii U GamePad. I'm not bashing it. It's my second-favourite Nintendo controller ever, besides GameCube. Just not for fighting games.
 

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I see what you mean. The difference, I feel, is not quite as drastic as it is for the Nunchuk and Wii Remote control scheme. If anything, the Gamecube controller has become a handicap for me, as it's been so long since I played Smash Bros. using one.
 

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I really like the pro-controller. It feels really natural and I've had a few XBox enthusiasts say they like the dual sticks at the top, which IMO says a lot. When I bring my WiiU to the youth group the pro-controller AND the gamepad are always fought over.

I'm not really sure what the big deal is though...I mean, why don't we just go back to the N64 controller, right? ;)
 

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