hypothetical: if kraken was removed from the game, could a low ink alpha team beat moonlight?

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discuss

 

[liligravybread]

if a low ink alpha team can beat moonlight (i’m assuming this is consistent and not just an upset) from 1 small game design change then should they be allowed to play in low ink?

 

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paging @Popgun for that one

 

[zyf_]

depends on the number of gifted subs

 

[woona]

imo the lowest seed beta team could beat moonlight with or without kraken

 

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ok lets say, hypothetically, that shadowind gets gifted another 100 twitch subs and forces omega to play hydra AND kraken is now removed from the game. who wins?

 

[liligravybread]

also just realised the word ‘could’ probably implies something less consistent here.

i’m gonna vote ‘no’ as in ‘not purely from that 1 change’ because i’m sure moonlight would be a team that can more quickly adapt to that change than a low level team. perhaps some day in the future though. :)

 

[liligravybread]

ok lets say, hypothetically, that shadowind gets gifted another 100 twitch subs and forces omega to play hydra AND kraken is now removed from the game. who wins?

uhhhh FTWin

 

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ok lets say, hypothetically, FTWin enters the ring and also 5hak comes back. However, 5hak has to leave the team yet again. Does the emotional damage caused by this lead to moonlight winning? kraken is still gone and omega is on hydra

 

[Chipolte]

I think giving them back Kraken and Omega on hydra would still be enough for a low ink team to win tbh

 

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ok marsh but did you consider how this affects lebron's legacy

 

[Funky_Eevee]

Which era of FTWin has 5hak returned to and left again? this is crucial information for the situation

 

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an intense debate is happening here

 

[SIDEUP]

the answer is yes no matter the circumstance

 

[Lerno1]

Yes because if the high-level meta revolves around kraken then moonlight will be forced to change their strategy on short notice without a lot of prior practice, while a low ink alpha team will have adapted to such a circumstance already

 

[Popgun]

No

 

[Zonink]

If forge is also banned yea

 

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If forge is also banned yea

nolan ain't doing nothing with that forge

 

[Zonink]

nolan ain't doing nothing with that forge

it can pretend to be a shooter if it throws enough suctions.

 

[Alphine_Agnitio]

Kraken Cheese imo is extremely overrated, way too many people act like its a instant uno reverse card when it requires: A) massively precise coordination B) the team attempting the cheese to play a 4v3 for at least 3-4 seconds while the player on kracken pops it and moves into position

And its also very telegraphed, with an audible cue whenever kraken is popped(and also something you should be watching anyway) + the players jumping wil usually be close enough in range that stealth jump isn't a factor.

Don't get me wrong its not useless, its just not a good "plan A".