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I personally think that pencil itself is not a problem. The kit is domineering yes, but the main weapon doesn't need to be changed. The fact that cooler is currently a requirement on every comp makes a support backline option that fits into every comp so tempting to every team. It's a difficult special and weapon to balance without killing either of them. 210p is a great start, and maybe 2 mains special saver on cooler rather than 100%. By nerfing the special part of the kit, it encourages the weapon to play to it's niche strengths more and actually fight people
 

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I rather be fighting Pencil rn than RP Eliter in general and I like the aspect of it being akin to a combo weapon charger like bamboo, but I do think it paints too well to be having such a cheap Cooler with a Sprinkler attached.

Higher points for Cooler and/or slight paint output nerf is kinda how I expect them to nerf the weapon in the future assuming it keeps seeing so much use.
(It will)
Fair, but part of that is just the poor design of respawn punisher, which actively makes the game worse for everyone. I personally haven't seen an eliter in comp since chill season last year, it was just always outclassed by ballpoint and pencil after that.
 

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Fair, but part of that is just the poor design of respawn punisher, which actively makes the game worse for everyone. I personally haven't seen an eliter in comp since chill season last year, it was just always outclassed by ballpoint and pencil after that.
I've seen eliter as a niche pick on maps like inkblot just to counter pick snipewriter, but yeah, it's really fallen off
 

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I personally think that pencil itself is not a problem. The kit is domineering yes, but the main weapon doesn't need to be changed. The fact that cooler is currently a requirement on every comp makes a support backline option that fits into every comp so tempting to every team. It's a difficult special and weapon to balance without killing either of them. 210p is a great start, and maybe 2 mains special saver on cooler rather than 100%. By nerfing the special part of the kit, it encourages the weapon to play to it's niche strengths more and actually fight people
That sounds good like a good compromise without killing the weapon. Though if the special were to go away, wouldn't any other backline be preferable? That's the hard part. Without cooler, is pencil really worth anything?
 

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Fair, but part of that is just the poor design of respawn punisher, which actively makes the game worse for everyone. I personally haven't seen an eliter in comp since chill season last year, it was just always outclassed by ballpoint and pencil after that.
Yeah I agree for sure and am glad Cooler negates RP since RP just slows the pace of the game in a super unfun way to fight.
Day 1 Cooler Dynamo getting RP'd by Eliter players was one of the saddest things I've seen in this game.
 

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That sounds good like a good compromise without killing the weapon. Though if the special were to go away, wouldn't any other backline be preferable? That's the hard part. Without cooler, is pencil really worth anything?
Pencil has a niche in it's playstyle apart from other chargers, it is really good at forcing it's teammates forwards on the map. It also is pretty good at fighting with dedicated players. It will be more difficult/niche to fit into comps, but it will still work really well with weapons like carbon that like sharking in.
 

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I think they should put damage up back in the game and let Pencil deal 99.9
 

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So you would increase its down time but also give it more paint in general? That way it has a more punishable weakness, while still maintaining its strengths? Interesting, didn't think of that.
Yeah id also prob give it 210/220p, I dont want the weapon to be weak because its really unique and fun but I also want other weapons to be playable
 

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I'm wondering how different players are percieving the rise of pencil in comp and with the indirect buffs in patch 6.1.0. Do we think pencil is good or bad for the game? How could we change it to promote backline diversity? Things like that.
I think it's strengths are just a little much rn. It's range should be nerfed a bit to either splat charger or less range and it should be 210 or more.
 

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