Oh that would be great! Now I'm hoping I'm wrong ^^im hoping cold blooded hides the line for the sniper rifles, and im not sure that haunt would do that because it already seems to mark them anyway for a time.
Hmm... The Ninja Squid isn't really good looking imo. I mean, if it makes it difficult to make jumps (slower speed, less jump distance), then why use it? It could force you to take set routes and not take alternate ones.Description of the perks from someone with a review copy:
http://imgur.com/KMFQ9La
(Found from here, beware of spoilers)
Some descriptions of the more obscure ones:
Opening Gambit/Last-ditch Effort: Boosts speed for first/last 30 seconds.
Tenacity: Fills special faster if your team has fewer players than the enemy team (I assume this means when one of your teammates gets splattered)
Comeback: Boosts abilities for a short time after respawn
Cold Blooded: Shortens the amount of time that enemies can track you with items
Ninja Squid: Leave no trace while swimming, but reduces speed (could be really useless depending on how much it reduces your speed)
Haunt: Reveals the position of enemy who splats you to your team for a short period (better version of what I thought!)
Recon: Allows you to see enemy team on map while standing on respawn point (If only there was a way to communicate this information to team mates...)
Bomb Sniffer: Reveals traps and hidden bombs (not sure what this applies to other than the mine?)
Stealth Jump: Hides Super Jump landing but makes it slower.
What are your thoughts on these? Better or worse than you expected?
Yeah, Ninja Squid doesn't seem great, especially considering people have been able to be stealthy when swimming, by going slower anyway.Hmm... The Ninja Squid isn't really good looking imo. I mean, if it makes it difficult to make jumps (slower speed, less jump distance), then why use it? It could force you to take set routes and not take alternate ones.
Stealth Jump on the other hand seems pretty good. It prevents a camping near a super jump landing since others can't see you (even if it is slower).
That and run speed up and opening gambit/last ditch effort. Terrifying!A higher defense would be op for Rollers
Yeah I guess they had to limit them in some way or it really would be a must-have.Ahh nice info, the speed reduction on ninja makes sense for balance, otherwise why would you ever not run it if you had the spare slots for it. I was hoping cold blooded would make you completely undetectable, but like with ninja I guess that would be too strong considering how many perk slots you can have. Eventually everyone would run it and make the detection items useless.
But I guess this answers the question of how relative strengths of perks on the base slot vs sub slots work for these kinds of utility perks. I assume ninja would have less swim speed penalty if it's the base perk, and cold blood would reduce trace time even more, etc.
I thought it had to do with a team where one (or more) player disconnected.Tenacity: Fills special faster if your team has fewer players than the enemy team (I assume this means when one of your teammates gets splattered)
Yeah, I think it could be possible but it seems strange for just recon to be the odd one out. Maybe his description is missing some detailThe only ability I still can't see a difference between base/sub slot would be recon. Perhaps there are some abilities that can only be base or sub slots perhaps?
You know what else they could do while waiting? Depending on the map layout, they could have the E-liter 3K (longest sniper weapons) and kill enemies from afar. By the way (this may be a bit a of a stretch but), I think on Saltspray Rig, they can kill enemies while being directly at the spawn point (or near it). This seems pretty useful with Recon.Recon would be usefull with Voicechat because 1 person could stay in the Base and tell everyone where the Enemys are
Yeah, it's possible but unlikely if it's just recon that is different. I guess we will have to wait and see.Yeah, I think it could be possible but it seems strange for just recon to be the odd one out. Maybe his description is missing some detail
I saw a video showing someone using Ninja Squid and Stealth Jump as base perks
looks pretty good
True, I think I initially assumed it would be slowed significantly, although having to use an extra slot to negate a negative effect isn't ideal. My initial concerns were that people can "stealth" swim by just swimming slower without the perk, however the video posted above eases my concerns and it might turn out to be a must have perk!I think maybe people are looking down on Ninja Squid a bit too much considering we don't know the specifics yet. If the speed reduction is fairly low, or can be offset by a secondary-strength Swim Speed Up, then it could prove insanely useful. I know that during the Testfire, I had no trouble as all seeing opponents as they moved through ink--negating the ripple visual can be a huge boon as you'll have no idea which path an enemy took to get out of your sight.
My thoughts exactly. Also really useful for quickly knowing who is safe to jump to.Recon would be usefull with Voicechat because 1 person could stay in the Base and tell everyone where the Enemys are
I think it might be a bit of a stretch, or very limited. Also since you'd have to have line of sight to hit them, the radar wouldn't be that useful.You know what else they could do while waiting? Depending on the map layout, they could have the E-liter 3K (longest sniper weapons) and kill enemies from afar. By the way (this may be a bit a of a stretch but), I think on Saltspray Rig, they can kill enemies while being directly at the spawn point (or near it). This seems pretty useful with Recon.
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Now it's probably too far to kill from your spawn point, but you don't have to move that far away from it to kill enemies near their spawn point. The E-liter 3K has some serious range, so it's possible.
Ah right, I forgot to mention that later in the video (~8:17) you can see his full perk setup since it shows the first match from the perspective of a player on the other team.Doesn't seem to be slowed noticeably, perhaps they have swim speed sub perks?
Oh thanks for pointing that out, I'm not that observant :)Ah right, I forgot to mention that later in the video (~8:17) you can see his full perk setup since it shows the first match from the perspective of a player on the other team.
He has 2 swim speed sub-perks on.
Finally, someone using the charger the correct way...Yeah, I think it could be possible but it seems strange for just recon to be the odd one out. Maybe his description is missing some detail
I saw a video showing someone using Ninja Squid and Stealth Jump as base perks:
looks pretty good
Same here. I thought they would be bad, but seeing them in action really puts it into perspective on how good they are.Finally, someone using the charger the correct way...
The ninja squid speed reduction did not look so bad, nor did the super jump speed. I'm quite the fan now, they seems to give more than they take.