I think this will be the case for most typical tourneys, but I could see the longer running online tourneys that sometimes take a month at a time allowing closer to 8 to allow substitutions if something came up so that a ton of teams aren't dropping out.
Squidboards Ranking System Proposal
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We definitely hear everybody's requests for 8 person teams. However, we wanted to fully explain why we chose 7 person teams. There were four particular reason we went with seven:
1. Other competitive shooters that we looked at had limits that allowed teams to have enough players to have not quite enough players for two whole teams
2. We wanted teams to look to other teams for scrims/practice, rather than just stay inside their own team. We want people to interact with each other.
3. We wanted to make sure there was consistency within a team. With more than 7 members, you could play a team that you played yesterday but it would be completely different.
4. We wanted to encourage more teams to form. With a more restrictive number, more teams would be formed, and thus the system would be more populated. We don't know how many teams the system will have, so we want to have as many as possible.
We are willing to change this, as you guys have overwhelmingly showed us that you want more people on a team, but we wanted to fully explain ourselves before we do so
1. Other competitive shooters that we looked at had limits that allowed teams to have enough players to have not quite enough players for two whole teams
2. We wanted teams to look to other teams for scrims/practice, rather than just stay inside their own team. We want people to interact with each other.
3. We wanted to make sure there was consistency within a team. With more than 7 members, you could play a team that you played yesterday but it would be completely different.
4. We wanted to encourage more teams to form. With a more restrictive number, more teams would be formed, and thus the system would be more populated. We don't know how many teams the system will have, so we want to have as many as possible.
We are willing to change this, as you guys have overwhelmingly showed us that you want more people on a team, but we wanted to fully explain ourselves before we do so
SlimyQuagsire
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I think the reasons for the limit are pretty good.
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Those are all valid points and was exactly what i was thinking. At this point in time for splatoon, a smaller number is quite frankly better than a larger one.
I understand wanting team to scrim with other teams but sometimes it's just way faster and easier to get together a group of 8 relatively to extremely close friends over something like skype for a quick practice session than have to try to coordinate between two full teams, probably through a much slower messaging medium like the forums. There's also the great ability to get a feel for how your own team plays by playing against them, on the same side you might miss how often they leave their sides open or how easy it is to sneak up on them.
I guess you could get around it by having a go to extra friend who helps with scrims, but that kind of defeats the whole building team work aspect since they're getting a feel for someone they're never going to actually play with.
I guess you could get around it by having a go to extra friend who helps with scrims, but that kind of defeats the whole building team work aspect since they're getting a feel for someone they're never going to actually play with.
I think having a player limit of 7 is a good idea. Aweshucks exlpained it really well above. People can still have regular scrims against friends and such even if they are not in the same team. The player limit is there to have consistency between teams and to make it work better with the ranking system.
One thing I'd like to as is are players allowed to be substitute players in another team? Let's say that Im part of the main roster in team A. Could I still be a sub in team B for "what if" situations?
One thing I'd like to as is are players allowed to be substitute players in another team? Let's say that Im part of the main roster in team A. Could I still be a sub in team B for "what if" situations?
Flying_Tortoise
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Well we still definitely love everyone's input on how they view our reasoning, which Aweshucks provided.
That's a tough one. I personally wanted something similar but that was why we had people have the ability to change teams every 2 weeks. If we were to allow someone from team A be able to sub for team C, people would take advantage of this and just have their person from team A always be subbing into team C's matches (so it's basically allowing one player to play for 2 teams). This is also why we have teams that can be a max size of 7 (or possibly 8) so that they wouldn't have those "what if" situations.
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I had another idea concerning the tier names two days ago. It's hard to define which in-game object (be it a weapon or w/e) is higher and lower, that's true, so how about naming the tiers after maritime lifeforms? Shark, Squid, eel, shrimp, whatever comes to mind. That way we could stay close to the game's setting and it's easy to determine which one is "stronger"/"bigger" than another one.
Might be too fishy (hah) for some people, but I like the idea :)
Might be too fishy (hah) for some people, but I like the idea :)
Ooh I like that idea, maybe Krill -> Shrimp -> Sardine -> Squid -> Shark -> Killer Whale if you want to keep 6 ranks? Tho I might drop it down to Shrimp -> Sardine -> Squid -> Shark to start since we were talking about too many tiers existing.
Maybe Grand Zapfish for the highest rank? Or if you want to do a 'defend the title' type thing, it's a rank that belongs to a single team and whoever beats them gets it.
SlimyQuagsire
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The World SquidBoards Champions.
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Zapfish
Hammerhead
Kraken
Whale
Squid / Sepia (zool. for squid if you don't want to use the all-known term squid)
Dolphin
Shrimp
Plankton
Those came to my mind right now. They are already too many, so we should be able to determine a nice set of fresh-sounding lifeforms if we decide to use names like that^^
World SquidBoards Champion(ship) sounds nice, too, WSC in short.
Hammerhead
Kraken
Whale
Squid / Sepia (zool. for squid if you don't want to use the all-known term squid)
Dolphin
Shrimp
Plankton
Those came to my mind right now. They are already too many, so we should be able to determine a nice set of fresh-sounding lifeforms if we decide to use names like that^^
World SquidBoards Champion(ship) sounds nice, too, WSC in short.
SlimyQuagsire
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I can dig it.
TheMH
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I just was in the mood to create a few banners for the tiers/leagues. Banners are always a good thing :) I think they turned out really well considering I am VERY rusty in Photoshop and didn't design stuff for years. Tell me what you think about it.
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GREAT job on the banners. Those look really good!
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I just found a svg file with the original Splatoon ink splashes.
http://www.pidgi.net/wiki/images/2/2d/Ink_-_Splatoon.svg
I could rework the banners with them (and make them look a little cleaner, too), if the staff decides to use them officially.
http://www.pidgi.net/wiki/images/2/2d/Ink_-_Splatoon.svg
I could rework the banners with them (and make them look a little cleaner, too), if the staff decides to use them officially.
Flying_Tortoise
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Oh shoot, I'm so sorry. We were discussing quite a few things and forgot to bring up your banners. They do look amazing, we actually have an artist doing the tiers but perhaps we can figure out a place for the banners. But I would have to talk to the group. Thank you for taking your time to make these.