Octobrush: Analysis and Thoughts Thread

[Mrwhatzitooya]

The rebranded model will be the one that will have bombs I believe. I think it had splat bombs and bomb rush.

That'll be awesome! I agree that that seems likely, and it's a set i'll be looking forward to using as well.

Overall i reckon i'll be cycling between Inkling, Octobrush and their customs as my main weapon sets once they come out, and use them depending on what type of mode i'll be using.

 

[Zekki]

Not being an inkbrush user, I tried it with full expectations of hating it. I managed to get 20 straight kills without a single death and came in first for points every game while doing so. Naturally I thought I could switch to the inkbrush and do better, but when I did I managed to land myself near the bottom with more deaths than kills. If you didn't like the inkbrush then I would seriously recommend giving the octobrush a shot, it's a different animal. It feels a lot more like an short ranged gun than it does a roller/paintbrush.

I'm not a fan of beacons though, the brush really could use some range. Even if just to get people to retreat so you can advance through narrow hallways or get past pesky chargers.

As for the kraken, it's a great power but arguably a poor fit. It's hard to complain about invincibility though.

 

[HappyBear801]

Well now, this is interesting! I was hoping for bombs as a sub to the Octobrush, but i can certainly live with beacons. It makes the Inkbrush's support role even more specialised!

I won't have access to Splatoon again for another week, so i won't get the chance to try it out when it's released. I'd really appreciate it if anyone can tell me what its stats are like in comparison to the Inkbrush, and which they think feels better to use.

Just to let you know, the Octobrush Nouveau will have Splat Bombs for the secondary, so you can have this weapon with bombs. The nouveau will also come with the Inkzooka.

 

[SquiliamTentacles]

It seems like a slower but stronger Inkbrush. However, I feel it covers turf faster as you only need 1 swing to cover a large area.

 

[Las7]

It's pretty awesome - much better for ranked than a regular brush.
You are still pretty quick(faster than a Carbon).
The trail you leave is easier to use in order to back track, the regular brush leaves a really small trail so it's harder to backtrack without leaving your trail.
Damage wise takes 2-3 swings to kill an opponent and it doesn't require button mashing.
The sub is pretty much one of the most useful subs in larger maps.
While your mobility might ensure that chargers have a difficult time hitting you unless you run in a straight path.

Also KRAKEN!

 

[SquiddiamFancyson]

This is a surprisingly amazing weapon. The range is brilliant, and seems to act like a miniature shield in toe to toe gun fights. With damage ups its still a comfortable 3 shot from a noticeable distance, though I believe it can 2 shot up close if you get perfect swings.

 

[Eclipsc70]

True but you can get a 2 shot with an Ink Brush with a proper swing as well considering it shoots out 3-4 small blotches of ink that each deal around 28 dmg without any boosts. The Octobrush works similarly with each of its blotches dealing around 37 without any dmg ups if im not mistaken?

 

[meleesplatter]

Pretty much a more well-rounded version of inkbrush. Much better at holding it's own in a gunfight (though the lack of an offensive sub means you're
still better off seeking advantageous positions), can ink an area quickly with it's wide and fairly long-range spray (charging specials very quickly in the process), and can still move relatively unimpeded through enemy ink to escape. This weapon seems to have it all.

It's biggest downfall is it's ferocious ink consumption, though. It's all too easy to find yourself running short on ink while inking a large area or in a prolonged
gunfight, to say nothing of the cost for planting beacons. This on top of it's lowered speed very noticeably limits this brush's ability to pull daring flanks or escapes
like it's cousin.

Still, it's well-rounded blend of fighting ability, inking and mobility make it an amazingly versatile weapon that can perform well in almost any situation.
I definitely see this weapon being far more widespread for this reason, especially in ranked. It also makes it far less map-dependent than it's cousin too. Though it will be interesting to see how the bubbler inkbrush will compare in fighting for objectives...

 

[WaifuRaccoonBL]

Just to let you know, the Octobrush Nouveau will have Splat Bombs for the secondary, so you can have this weapon with bombs. The nouveau will also come with the Inkzooka.

Oh right, it was an inkzooka not bomb rush. My mistake.

Either way, I really like this weapon. Gives me the speed I want but also gives me the power I want like the Gals. Can't wait for the rebrand version.

 

[meleesplatter]

Yeah, this version of the weapon, despite it's added combat ability, still favours flanking and infiltration like the ink brush both to get good beacon
spots and maximizing the damage from kraken (it really works best with the element of surprise). The nouveau drops all form of subtlety for straight
combat performance.

 

[Mrwhatzitooya]

Just to let you know, the Octobrush Nouveau will have Splat Bombs for the secondary, so you can have this weapon with bombs. The nouveau will also come with the Inkzooka.

Now that sounds like my cup of tea! :D I'll be looking forward to that! It really seems that all the brushes in general seem to be both very enjoyable and have very good sets.

 

[ShinyTogetic]

Strange this brush is somewhat like that krak-on roller but in brush form
so you can't be as reckless with this...
but with a damage up making 3HKOs every time is the dream

 

[ChiePet]

As an KOSR Main, I wanted this weapon to be the speed/stealth replacement i've needed; My OCD kicks in sooo hard when flinging with the brush, I can't stand it lol.

 

[Dr. Corndog]

As for the kraken, it's a great power but arguably a poor fit. It's hard to complain about invincibility though.

Right now I'm going to disagree about the Kraken. I faced off against several Octobrush users with my Splattershot Pro this morning. Should've been no problem, right? As soon as I landed a hit on one of them, he'd Kraken up and run me down.

I had one game where this happened literally every time I saw an Octobrush. Four times. The guy couldn't take me, so he'd Kraken up for invincibility. The fact that he always had a Kraken in reserve made me question the amount of time it takes for an Octobrush to charge its special.

 

[meleesplatter]

Right now I'm going to disagree about the Kraken. I faced off against several Octobrush users with my Splattershot Pro this morning. Should've been no problem, right? As soon as I landed a hit on one of them, he'd Kraken up and run me down.

I had one game where this happened literally every time I saw an Octobrush. Four times. The guy couldn't take me, so he'd Kraken up for invincibility. The fact that he always had a Kraken in reserve made me question the amount of time it takes for an Octobrush to charge its special.

Oh, this weapon doesn't have much trouble inking up places quickly, believe me. But they have to be careful doing so without a kraken ready
since they often drain through their supply quickly and don't have any subs to cover them in a fight. Methinks the player you were facing was just doing
a good job of staying out of trouble while building their special to make bold moves.

 

[Dr. Corndog]

Oh, this weapon doesn't have much trouble inking up places quickly, believe me. But they have to be careful doing so without a kraken ready
since they often drain through their supply quickly and don't have any subs to cover them in a fight. Methinks the player you were facing was just doing
a good job of staying out of trouble while building their special to make bold moves.

Heh. I definitely believe you. My experience this morning just made me wonder, between its exceptional close-range ability, the Kraken, and the ability to cover turf so quickly, whether the Octobrush is a well-balanced weapon. I haven't had any issues with the balance of weapons before this (including the Kraken pre-nerf), but the Octobrush made me wonder.

I played against a few more of them this afternoon, though, and things went considerably better. So, this morning I probably was just up against good Octobrushes, or stuck with scrubs on my team, or both.

 

[Robotoboy20]

I've never been big on the roller weapons, but for some reason the release of the Octobrush has inspired me. Right now my favorites are the Octobrush, Inkbrush, and Carbon Roller... There's just something about using the Octobrush that had me making cheesy haikus while I ran around the map inking stuff (It looks like a tool from an Ukiyo-e kit, and it's Japanese name is Hokusai, who was a famous Ukiyo-e artists) Haha, I ended up top of my team with 10 splats and 1 death. Of course I'm still quite scrubby with the brushes, and carbon roller, but the whole spamming ZR is no problem since I typically main the L-3.

The range is awful of course, but I think it's fun to try and find creative approaches... these 3 roller weapons have so many hidden techniques, and it's been a blast trying to figure them out. I even get pretty good results in Ranked mode.

I also found that if you double tap in just the right rhythm, while your opponent is to the right, and you're the perfect distance away, you can get a two hit splat. I was practicing that tech all night last night and I'm nearly consistent with it now. It splats SOOOO fast this way, completely throws people off. It's very tricky though, and takes quite a bit of precision... good thing is if they hop (and most people do hop) it almost always does the two hit, occasionally you'll need to do the 3 hit, but if you do it right you'll have them gone in no time.

 

[meleesplatter]

Heh. I definitely believe you. My experience this morning just made me wonder, between its exceptional close-range ability, the Kraken, and the ability to cover turf so quickly, whether the Octobrush is a well-balanced weapon. I haven't had any issues with the balance of weapons before this (including the Kraken pre-nerf), but the Octobrush made me wonder.

I played against a few more of them this afternoon, though, and things went considerably better. So, this morning I probably was just up against good Octobrushes, or stuck with scrubs on my team, or both.

There's obviously range going against thing, but it's biggest flaw cannot be overstated in my mind: it burns through ink like butter.
This is obviously bad if you're caught inking an area with most of your ink spent or get disrupted by a disruptor, but what this really harms is doing the stuff that an inkbrush would normally do: dashing boldly through enemy ink to surprisingly bypass well-fortified enemy positions without having to splat opponents and then ink where no other inkling can or make daring escapes (usually with the help of ink resistance). The octobrush simply doesn't have enough in the tank to pull these moves off nearly as well, on top of being slower to boot.

As a trade-off though, the octobrush succeeds in many situations that the inkbrush would normally falter in, mainly in regards to combat, while still being a capable inking and flanking weapon; you just can't pull extreme stunts like you can with the inkbrush's blinding speed.

 

[SquiddiamFancyson]

Okay so been trying this thing in ranked and it's karma incarnate for those that mocked the inkbrush for being unviable. I've gone from A- 72 to A 30 comfortably, and in some cases carried the team. I didn't think the Octo would have that level of independence considering its infiltration/surprise KO nature over range, but it does its one job so well that I'm starting to believe this loadout may even top the upcoming one with inkzooka. Kraken is your emergency button that also panics the opponents when you're otherwise cornered, and it also takes advantage of the Octo's ability to infiltrate. Beakons can be placed in key areas as meatshields or pressure points very easily due to the fact you glide over enemy ink. It KOs so quickly that no reactions are good enough, and it paints zones in no time meaning it's almost like a faster dynamo. You do have to be careful about who you take on but you can ambush from a fair distance and still grab the kill, it's not like you need to close up flank the way aerospray's would.

Overall, this weapon solves all of the inkbrushes issues and its flaws are easily compensated, especially when you consider you'll be sneaking around in squid a lot and thus quickly recovering the ink you burn through like a hot knife to butter. I was taking on A+ players and bobbing and weaving around them, so I definitely think this weapon is the one for me.

 

[Thebluehero]

As an Inkbrush main, I can say that the Octobrush is just really slow. It can't cover as quickly because of how slow it is, and IMO the sprinkler is much better than Squid Beakons. I was really excited for this weapon, but it jut doesn't perform as well as the inkbrush.