Cant Customize Loadout - gameXplain

[IkkaRatto]

This has greatly affected me :( you have to buy them in sets rip feelings...

 

[RotomGuy]

Wasn't this confirmed a while ago? I just hope the Jet Squelcher comes with a Seeker. Dream duo, right there.

 

[RespawningJesus]

Well, the loadout is not a traditional loadout. Your loadout is basicly the weapon set, and your clothes. So, yes, I can see why people are sad about not being able to get their ideal weapon loadout, but you still have some room to customize with stuff.

 

[LinkJr]

I'll direct everyone to this thread for a better overview of the loadout: http://squidboards.com/threads/a-clarification-on-loadouts-original-question-solved.296/

Yes they are fixed sets, BUT there are still different combinations of the same weapon with different sub and specials, and Nintendo will probably add even more variations over time too.

 

[WaifuRaccoonBL]

We knew about this for a while now. It is for balance reasons.

 

[Jiggly]

This has broken my heart in many ways. :(

So are all the sets pre confirmed? Or is it possible to get every combination, they are just at the store at random times?

 

[RespawningJesus]

This has broken my heart in many ways. :(

So are all the sets pre confirmed? Or is it possible to get every combination, they are just at the store at random times?

Yes, all sets are pre-confirmed. It should be possible to get every set, but they most likely appear at random times, due to the nature of the shops, so check daily.

Note: A lot of this are my assumptions on how it will work. The only thing I know is that there are different sets for each weapon, and that they are preset.

 

[baronfel]

This has broken my heart in many ways. :(

So are all the sets pre confirmed? Or is it possible to get every combination, they are just at the store at random times?

Most likely not all combos are available. As others have said for balances sake. It is much easier to balance a weapon if you know what it can and can't have.

Edit: beaten to it.

 

[RotomGuy]

Yes, all sets are pre-confirmed. It should be possible to get every set, but they most likely appear at random times, due to the nature of the shops, so check daily.

Note: A lot of this are my assumptions on how it will work. The only thing I know is that there are different sets for each weapon, and that they are preset.

Someone showed that Ammo Knights' stock never changes. All sets are always available, you just have to be a certain level to buy some of them.

 

[Zoot]

This limitation is a good thing! It means every weapon will always have its own strengths and weaknesses, and there won't be one loadout that trumps all the rest. It's not something to cry over.

 

[Dirty Duck]

If we could customise our loadout beyond the different variants already given I do feel it'd give birth to a lot of problems.

In the testfire for instance, if you saw a team of rollers, you'd know to expect Killer Wails and no lethal secondary weapon. If loadouts were completely customisable, you'd have no idea what they'd have. At least with set loadouts we can know what to expect of our opponents, and they won't be "overpowered" because the loadouts have been balanced.

 

[EnderGamma]

I don't want to beat the drum, but yes if you just now found out about this I am sorry. But yes this was confirmed that the weapons were put in a preset, you could also see examples in the 5.7.2015 Direct when they visited the weapon shop. However the customization really comes down to the gear you wear with their Abilities.

Basically your consists of your hat/glasses, shirt/top, and shoes. Each one has a main ability that can't be changed but also as you level up the gear they will gain star levels up to 3. You will gain a random Ability per star that can be rerolled through the Spike NPC. And thanks to GameXplain, we now know that abilities stack so fine-tuning your gear I think will be an intricate part of the customization and I'm sure will hit that itch people want.

 

[RespawningJesus]

I don't want to beat the drum, but yes if you just now found out about this I am sorry. But yes this was confirmed that the weapons were put in a preset, you could also see examples in the 5.7.2015 Direct when they visited the weapon shop. However the customization really comes down to the gear you wear with their Abilities.

Basically your consists of your hat/glasses, shirt/top, and shoes. Each one has a main ability that can't be changed but also as you level up the gear they will gain star levels up to 3. You will gain a random Ability per star that can be rerolled through the Spike NPC. And thanks to GameXplain, we now know that abilities stack so fine-tuning your gear I think will be an intricate part of the customization and I'm sure will hit that itch people want.

Wait, so 1 star gear can level up to 3 stars? Then what is the point of Spike adding slots then? I thought 1 star gear just stayed like that.

 

[get ROWDY]

Wait, so 1 star gear can level up to 3 stars? Then what is the point of Spike adding slots then? I thought 1 star gear just stayed like that.

I think it can go up to four or five? I believe that's the point of Spike adding slots. I thought a video mentioned it maxed out at 5?

also it's better that loadouts are locked, certain secondary and special weapons would never see the light of day if you could just swap them out with something better/preferable

this way you have to work with what you have, and can't change a loadout to suit your needs. That's what equipment is for anyways :]]]

 

[Hi_C]

To be honest, as much as it sucks, it's really not a bad thing in my eyes. One, it makes the game a lot more balanced since you know what to expect from each class and it doesn't provide that one "Overpowered" set. That and it gives an incentive to actually choose a class. It's not that huge of an issue since there is still tons of customization in the game.

 

[Citanul]

I think it can go up to four or five? I believe that's the point of Spike adding slots. I thought a video mentioned it maxed out at 5?

also it's better that loadouts are locked, certain secondary and special weapons would never see the light of day if you could just swap them out with something better/preferable

this way you have to work with what you have, and can't change a loadout to suit your needs. That's what equipment is for anyways :]]]

I believe the star count is for how many additional abilities a piece of gear can have since I think every piece of gear comes with 1 that can't be rerolled. I think a 3 star is the maximum that we've seen so far, which gives every gear slot a total of 4 abilities.

You can level up gear but that's not how it gains stars/slots. Leveling up gear just reveals unrevealed abilities your gear has, but doesn't add any stars or slots. Example: I just bought a 2 star shirt so it comes with 1 ability plus 2 question marks that will get revealed as I play with it. Only spike can add the third slot and only when I have the third slot revealed can he reroll the whole item (except the first ability the gear came with).

 

[Pivi]

This is 100% a balance measure, I can already see some weapon combos that would be the equivalent to giving the TF2 Scout a Flamethrower and a Sandvich.

It also prevents mass centralizing, where everyone goes "Charger/Ink Wall/Kraken is the best" then every Squad fight has these loadouts forever.

Plus they'e gonna be releasing more sets like, weekly, this isn't a bad thing and encourages you to play around your weaknesses.

 

[Draayder]

This is 100% a balance measure, I can already see some weapon combos that would be the equivalent to giving the TF2 Scout a Flamethrower and a Sandvich.

It also prevents mass centralizing, where everyone goes "Charger/Ink Wall/Kraken is the best" then every Squad fight has these loadouts forever.

Plus they'e gonna be releasing more sets like, weekly, this isn't a bad thing and encourages you to play around your weaknesses.

Can confirm from TF2 randomizer servers that weapons that were never intended to be used together can be hilariously OP.

I personally think it adds a little bit more depth in the weapon decision because you might be choosing between a primary you think is the best with an okay sub/super and a primary that is still good with better a better sub/super set.

 

[Bottlecapn]

Does nobody remember my 'Branded Weapons?' thread?

The only way you can get a set different from the traditional one is by buying a Branded weapon. Like clothing and gear, weapons come in different brands, usually consisting of different visuals and a different set. For example, a Tentatek Splattershot comes with a Suction Bomb and an Inkzooka, rather than the traditional Splattershot's Burst Bomb and Burst Bomb Rush. I'm assuming there'll be many different branded weapons featuring other in-game brands, like SquidForce, or Krak-on. We've seen footage of these other brands already, I cant seem to find it at the moment. I'll post back later if I find it.

 

[Flammie]

Pretty much the gear abilities from your gear is what will optimize your combat prowess if i worded it right (English is not my first language).
So the strategy is coming from knowing what combination of weapons is better for what situation, and then adapt the gear abilities toward it.
I think the game is customizible enough to fix any issues with the Main, Sub and Special weapon being not strong or balanced against other sets of weapons.