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I'm starting to miss facing Japanese players.

Discussion in 'Regular Discussion' started by CM2, Sep 11, 2017.

  1. IHaveAToaster

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    Not that flaming emoticon again.
    It's nothing personal, I just feel more pressured to do well than I really should be.
    This basically. I'd accept global matchmaking (albeit somewhat begrudgingly) if they actually gave us a better online service, but frankly I don't see it happening so I'm remaining anti-global matchmaking.
     
  2. Либра

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    Haha, don't worry. I just found it amusing from an European perspective, where I end up being the only one having a Cyrillic name. So the loneliness stemming from user-names can go both ways depending on who you ask, see. :p

    There's really no escaping unnecessary pressure by the current match-matching either way, to be honest. The amount of turf battles I have with single-digit LV people against (close or exactly) LV 50 people pitched against each other makes me break out in cold sweat every time I end up being the one with the single-digit dude on my team against the high level guys. Not sure if the lack of people using Kana in their name are really helping to alleviate this issue in the long run. *shrugs*
     
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  3. Hamachiカマ★

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    This is what I was subtly trying to get at with my region locked thread months ago. You could play Japanese people in league battle before, until the update made it so you couldn't, it sucks. A score of 2007 was 7th place in the North America......... -___-

    Like not only is it slow to fill I can see the ceiling. We have less try hards here and let's be honest S+ here is not the same as S+ in Japan...you can see that in videos, it's quite clear.
    I want to get a lot better, yes we have excellent players here but they are S+ 50 and I don't always get S+ 50 lol

    And honestly yes different play styles would be nice, from any country lol.
     
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    Regional matchmaking was a disgustingly bad idea. I'd take a slightly laggy match over having no match at all. It's what ruined ARMS for me, because if you were in Australia you'd get 1-3 ranked matches in a day, tops.

    Here in Oceania, we get paired up with Japan, which is pretty fun. But whenever Japan goes on Splatfest, it's evident just how horrendous the matchmaking is. I'm talking failing to get turf wars, and not getting more than two people in a ranked lobby above S/S+. I've failed to get freaking Salmon Run lobbies. It's actually unplayable outside single player mode. It boggles my mind that the searching radius doesn't "expand" over time, or anything.

    Regarding the skill level in Japan, the players there are super intense and serious. Battling them really taught me a lot about improving my fundamentals, and I feel like a much better player as a result. At the same time, though, I feel like I'm missing out when it comes to battling the rest of the world though. I know how to deal with Oceanic and Japanese players, but I haven't fought anyone in America or Europe at all. Never know if the playstyle or meta per region is different, and I worry if I'll be lost if I play against a team from outside my region.
     
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    You could be like me and learn Hiragana and Katakana just to read the names of Japanese Splatoon players, lol.

    I don't see how the Japanese playing the game competitively is anything other than good. The whole point of the game is to outplay the opponent; join a private match if you want to squid party. This, along with the ranking system being too lenient, is why I believe Ranked Battle is much worse in Splatoon 2 than it was in Splatoon 1.

    I have never heard that, but maybe it's changed from Splatoon to Splatoon 2.
     
  6. Saturn

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    I've been getting matched up with Japanese players all night in turf war. Is it fixed to allow cross-region play?
     
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    I don't miss it at all. Terrible delay, can't remember any names, and tbh I didn't like their playstyle most of the time (not aggressive enough). I am happy with Splatoon 2 as it is. Even though it takes long to find a lobby I'd rather wait longer for a match I'll enjoy them have one immediate bs match after another.
     
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    Pretty sure its just people from your own region using Japanese names. The switch isn't region locked, as such it has to support multiple languages and has tons pre-installed. You can switch any time in the settings.

    I myself was never there for the original Splatoon so I dont know how things were, nor how bad the lag issues were. I do however know that I'm more for international lobbies. The wait time for ranked matches in 2 is actually horrendous, especially as someone on the east coast who plays in the A.M. I find myself waiting five minutes at a time for matches depending, and half the time I end up playing with the same set of people. Which doesnt sound like a bad thing, but when you keep having to face off against the same player who has owned you every game you play. Its really, really, really demoralizing.

    At the very least it would've been nice for Nintendo to included two variants of Turf and Ranked. One regional, and one International. Using that setup I feel Ranked would be more interesting in general; as you could see how you stack against people in your own Country vs the whole world. Leauge IMO should've stayed worldwide, there's basically no point to it now due to the low player base.
     
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  9. Saturn

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    No, I mean rooms upon rooms filled entirely with Japanese names for hours on end.

    Cross-region matchmaking possibly got allowed if you have the proximity for it.
     
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    Yes if you live close enough you can play with primarily Japanese players. For example, Australian players will find most of their lobbies will pretty much be vs Japan.
     
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    I've recently been thrown into all Japanese lobbies in TW at least once a day. I'm on the US West Coast and was playing around 1 AM.

    The play style I saw was intense and aggressive (in TW). Everybody would rush mid, lots of splatting, and matches were hotly contested to the last second. No blowouts unless someone DC'ed. Frequent booyahing mid-match.
     
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    I don't miss them. I don't mind their playstyle at all, but I did mind the fact that whenever I faced them, they would lag like crazy, which was what had me quitting Splatoon 1 to begin with. So I will happily wait a little while to play a decent match.
     
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    I don't. The Switch's internet is bad enough within my region, let alone worldwide. I hate that being region locked isn't an option rather than just forced, though.
     
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    Now, I'm consistently seeing all Japanese matchups in League. It couldn't be any more intense.

    First match was SZ in Kelp Dome. They spammed splat bombs like crazy (as if they had the special, but none of them did) and shut us out - and our team had 3 S+ players on it.
     
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    Sometimes I miss them, sometimes I don't. I'd rather have fewer internet problems and be in regional play especially since I have pretty bad internet now--

    I do miss the few good times I remember with them In splatty toon 1, One time where this Japanese sniper was taking my entire team, and they were getting so salty over it, but I ended up just squid partying with the guy, at least it was turf war x)

    Another turf war moment was when I was with a friend messing around and another japanese squid partier came, ended up adding each other on friendslist ;D
     
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    Finally got put into a full Japanese lobby last night, had a ton of fun! Of course there were issues with lag, which sometimes seemed to work in my favor, but there were moments where on my screen I should not have died to things.

    I want to play with more Japanese players, we just need dedicated servers to make the experience more pleasant first.
     
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    Personally, I disliked playing against usually entire lobbies of Japanese players in Sploon 1, partialy because they usually were better than me, but mainly because the lag was awful. So far in Sploon 2 I have had almost no internet issues. The one time I did have a disconnect was because the entire lobby disconnected.

    However, the wait times have been awful. There have been times where I had to wait for 10 minutes to get a battle! Global matchmaking would be OK, but only if they used dedicated servers.
     
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    ^Can confirm. I play like a brutish dog, killing anyone who gets in my way. Only focusing on individual battles with my blaster. That's just my playstyle though.

    I never really understood this mentality, ever, just because being Japanese doesn't automatically make you a pro. There are bad players who happen to play in Japan too. The "ninjas" from the land of the rising sun, are called "good players" Trust me, North America, Europe, and Australia have good players too.

    Other than that, I don't think it's healthy for this game, especially being an e sport in the making to have a separate player pool all together. It's not healthy for our meta, or their meta because when one advances, so does the other one. Plus Japan and the West were able to push each other, and test out their different playstyles. Maybe we'll learn a thing or two watching them play, and vice versa. The Japanese don't discover everything about the game before the west does. Playing with the Japanese also helped us gauge how good we were on a global scale, now all we have is our region to play against each other, which is honestly being pretty ignorant when there's multiple communities across the seas that we now can't directly compare ourselves with.

    I was never really against the Japanese, I never really minded playing against them. Sure, when I was starting out it was infuriating to get splatted by some incomprehensible name tags all the time. But, like with every multiplayer game, I'm going to get rekt unless I know what I'm doing, and I put forth effort to better myself in the game. That's not going to change for you guys who hated Japan because they seemed inherently good. Trust me, there will be ThatOneGuy who will mercilessly kill you at every opportunity and punish you for your lack of skill.
     
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    Yeah I really doubt these are all Americans with Japanese names. I'm on the west coast and I'm pretty sure it's mostly Japanese players. I have mixed feelings about playing against Japanese players simply because of the bad netcode in the game. People complained that they wanted regional matchmaking in the first game but the reason why, even if they didn't know it, was the latency issues not because all the Japanese players were so much better. Nintendo took the easy way out and made it all regional matchmaking instead of actually improving the online experience for the sequel.

    Some of the funnest matches I've had though so far in the sequel were with Japanese players, at the same time some of the laggiest matches I've had were against Japanese players lol. I guess I'd call it a mixed bag which sums up the entire experience with the game so far. Hopefully we continue to see gradual improvements.
     
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    I'm from Brazil and I can't find players. No one plays Rainmaker, and with SZ and TC, it can easily take 4 minutes or more to be able to play a match. Obviously I don't like to play with japaneses and that 350ms of latency, but It's still better have a match to play than having nothing.
     
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