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Gameboy224

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I usually don’t consider a weapon’s value based on its ease of use; typically easy weapons have lower payoffs or glaring weaknesses, and if people can’t use harder weapons like the Ballpoint or ELitre then I consider it a case of human error and thus bad teammates. Honestly anyone can use any weapon in Salmon Run pretty easily with minimal practice; the AI on Salmonids is pretty much just “Move and hit them if they’re close.” Things don’t exploit every gap in your defences like you’ll find in PvP.

In my eyes, the Slosher takes the place as the weakest bucket for Salmon Run - I don’t think there’s anything it does that the Tri-Slosher doesn’t do better. The mobility is crap, its rate of fire heavily limits its DPS and painting potential, and really its only saving grace is the fact that the sloshes will hit multiple enemies until it encounters something it didn’t KO (Which the tri also does). Unfortunately this makes Cohocks and bosses a hard counter to the Slosher, really.
All I can say is aim above stuff. The entire gimmick of the slosher is its hits everything underneath the wave of ink you fire. Cohocks may stop shots if you fire directly at them, but they don't if you fire above them. That's key.
Given, Slosher isn't the best Salmon Run weapon out there, heck the entire class is definitely isn't breaking boundaries, but it ain't bad. It has versatility and mob control to its belt, but does suffer in the pure DPS department against stuff that requires sustained damage. But I can't see how Sloshing Machine is much better, that thing can't pierce at all unless you intentionally graze stuff.
I'm also a person that believes that people should know their range in Salmon Run. Slosher being one of those mid-long tier ranged weapons.
 

calamaro

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I main the Slosher in TC and dwell in X rank with it. I just dont think it works well overall in SR. There are quite a few more weapons I would like to have when I am backed in a corner.
 

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I main the Slosher in TC and dwell in X rank with it. I just dont think it works well overall in SR. There are quite a few more weapons I would like to have when I am backed in a corner.
For sure in that regards. It is most definitely not a panic weapon.
 

calamaro

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The Liter is ok I think. Ye ole high risk high reward at its finest. If your team sucks its pretty worthless. I would not shed one tear if it got removed but I can think of a few more before that to remove first.
 

Corrderio

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I just feel like they're completely overkill. The distance and longer charge time just aren't worth it when playing with randoms.

Anyway for this shift any advice with splatbrellas? I am absolutely horrible with them.
 

calamaro

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Double Brella load out today. It was feast or famine with my shifts.

As for splatbrella use personally I just make sure I dont get cornered or put myself in compromising positions. It packs a decent punch but man is it slow AF.
 

Corrderio

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Pretty much my problem. Good crowd clearing but horrible to use when you get ganged up on.

Still surprised I have my profreshional rank. Was not a good shift.
 

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Weapon loadout was middle tier. Not great, but at least minimum serviceable. Weapons with decent performance but require at least base line piloting skills. Still managed to get my routine Pro 400 to 500, had a bit of a rocky start but eventually just had a string of at least half way decent people.

Splat Brella overall is at least good, damage is at least okay and at least has average mobility. Tenta a bit less so but taking advantage of the canopy is helpful at times. H-3 was a tad hit or miss. Splat Dualies definitely helped a lot in raising the viability of this rotation.
 

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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really liking this weapon rotation. E-liter aint great of course, but the rest of the weapons work pretty well together and are easy for more casual players to use
 

awedry

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With the rotation that started yesterday (April 17th) - Flingza, Tri-Slosher, Pro, and 4k - was more difficult than I expected. Stingers were especially brutal with this weapon set since only the Pro could really take them down efficiently. Most crew wipes happened when they spawned in opposite corners and the Pro couldn't keep up. I couldn't recover back to 400.

Also, will randoms ever learn to bring the Maws and Scrappers to the basket on this map? A girl can dream...

~A.
 

calamaro

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With the rotation that started yesterday (April 17th) - Flingza, Tri-Slosher, Pro, and 4k - was more difficult than I expected. Stingers were especially brutal with this weapon set since only the Pro could really take them down efficiently. Most crew wipes happened when they spawned in opposite corners and the Pro couldn't keep up. I couldn't recover back to 400.

Also, will randoms ever learn to bring the Maws and Scrappers to the basket on this map? A girl can dream...

~A.
THANK YOU! I seethe when co-workers kill Maws and Scrappers on the shore line. I just dont get it. Some times ill just spam 'this way' by the basket hoping they will get the hint.... They dont.

Agreed on this load out being a little tricky to manage.
 

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THANK YOU! I seethe when co-workers kill Maws and Scrappers on the shore line. I just dont get it. Some times ill just spam 'this way' by the basket hoping they will get the hint.... They dont.
I'm in the process of passive aggressively collecting clips of people doing this very thing. I plan on making it into a montage of my woes.

Also Goldies. It's fun when they drop 10 eggs a mile away and your teammates start spamming This Way!
 

vanille987

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Especially true on the newest SR map. That map is hell if you don't lure some bosses to the basket.
 

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So I went back to sifting through the parameter files and trying to calculate some DPS values for my own amusement. I actually found quite a few interesting tidbits:

- In multiplayer, the Hydra gets a 25% damage boost at full charge (32->40) while in SR it gets +71% (35->60). From full charge, it has the highest DPS of all weapons at 600.0/s in multiplayer and 900.0/s in SR. Compare this to the post-dodge roll Dapples at 540.0/s and 675.0/s, and the short-range Ballpoint at 560.0/s and 700.0/s.
- The Ballpoint did not receive a damage nerf in SR during the 4.4.0 update; all Splatling bullets deal 35.0 damage in Salmon Run except the full-charge Hydra at 60.0. I remember @Absolutely Absol had this question a while back.
- Rollers have weird damage values in SR, with the Dynamo and Flingza getting hefty +50% boosts for vertical flicks.
- Autofire Squeezer actually deals the lowest DPS of all shooters, including the Jet. Spamming the single shot should theoretically be a higher DPS, roughly equal to the Splattershot Pro.
- The Explosher actually deals 75.0 damage in SR with its burst, while a direct deals 125.0; both can hit the same target sequentially, just like the 90.0 damage combo in multiplayer.
- Slosher and Tri-slosher deal the same damage per bullet in SR.
 
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Absolutely Absol

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I don't remember that question... I think I said updates don't affect SR weapons...
Hmm, autofire Squeezer's DPS is 257.1 while Jet Squelcher's 262.2. Did I do my maths right?
That Squeezer is going to trash tier for me, then. I can't spam single shot faster. :(

For people who is interested, these stats are available in this link.
 

BirdAndreo

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Damn, that info about Squeezer is game changer form me. I should remember that. It's gonna be exhausting using it now lol

Anyway, i kinda miss very weird, almost troll, shift like that one with all blasters and that one with both Gals and Nozzlenose. All chargers shift please! :D
 

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