Aero with baller has been my biggest headache when using the RBP. I don't have a great answer for it, but aeros were always the bane of my existence even with just the RB.
Weren't you talking about the MG with the curling bomb launcher though? Everyone still thinks that's trash.
No, Goldie, which is why it's in my signature under "Because it's meta, that's why:" (next to the now crossed out Little Green Murder Bucket. :) )
And I still don't!
Great description! You put a much finer point on ideas I kind of had a "feel" for but couldn't pin down objectively. You described my splooshing to a t. Swim speed + ninja. Rushdown or stealth flank. Moving along the walls, etc. The mobility is a key point to me.
One thing to keep in mind is...Great description! You put a much finer point on ideas I kind of had a "feel" for but couldn't pin down objectively. You described my splooshing to a t. Swim speed + ninja. Rushdown or stealth flank. Moving along the walls, etc. The mobility is a key point to me.
That explains my difficulties with dapple. (well other than that I suck at dodge roll :p ), It does sound like the dapple plays more like a shooter, where sploosh plays more like a brush/roller, and considering brushes and rollers are my other mains, and I've never really mained the shooters, (other than sploosh) I'd feel a little disjointed with it. And if they aren't really a "better sploosh" at playing like a sploosh, I might as well stick with sploosh and use the vanilla duelies when I want to go "shooter meta" (though dapples can be fun too.) (I know enperry is the most popular duelie, but burst cancelling is just too tempting for an old eliter/carbon main :p )
I think, for me, the dapples present a conundrum to my splooshing. I used to sploosh with beacons and harass with wail. Now the dapples got my beacons, so that play style I had with sploosh is split uncomfortably between sploosh and dapple (and nobody uses beacons in solo, sadly.) Curling bombs are great for sploosh, but I find I don't use them as much as I could since it makes my path predicatable. I haven't looked at the mined spoilers, but I'm hoping the Neo will have tentamissiles.....that replaces wail as the "stop for 2 seconds and fire and forget a harassement special, then capitalize on the chaos from behind" special. Not sure what I want in a sub. Splat bombs would be amazing. Suction would be kind of useless (why zone away if you want to get close?) , burst would be interesting. But it'll probably be point sensors like the old neo which was always kind of so so to me.
Flingza....I don't know...the set doesn't seem half bad. Well, more to the point, it's half bad. :p The wall just seems so silly on it. And on these new maps in general. But if I had bombs would I waste the ink on them rather than on the roller? Not sure I would. But that special is so powerful given how fast the weapon charges it. I'm not sure another kit would really be better or not. The vert hitbox, no question needs a fix. But I don't know, wish it had another sub, but not sure I'd want to get rid of the special. Unless it gets baller. I'd be all over that. :p But if I use the main roller to kill it becomes a carbon with an inking ability on the vert. The real trouble is when I accidentally do vert while fighting, or try to roll over someone the horizontal only tapped because I'm afraid I'll accidentally vert if I flick again :p that keeps happening.
Just remember, if it gets a buff and becomes laggy dynamo godly in a later meta, remember I was the hipster that defended flingza and tuber before it they were cool.
Dang it, I actually wanted such a silly weapon to work out.
You pretty much just summed up how I feel about the Flingza in one post. The vertical fling is just so bad and desperately needs a buff (it's a 3HKO at any range further than the regular Roller's range), and having little to no carry potential is a real dealbreaker for someone like me
The Splash Wall makes total sense to me, you'd use to protect yourself while you wind up for a vertical swing; the problem is that the vertical swing is so rubbish it ends up not being worth deploying it in the first place.
I really want to love the Flingza Roller, but the fact it's been awful since launch and has had no buffs despite the change we've seen so far makes me think we'll never see that day...Just remember, if it gets a buff and becomes laggy dynamo godly in a later meta, remember I was the hipster that defended flingza before they were cool.
They're doing that?! I really didn't think they'd do that considering dapples are a thing. That's stunning. But oh so awesome. The proper form isn't abandoned! Screw dapples. The #revoloosh begins anew! :)
I LOVE the clash blaster in RM and zones, but I go all sub saver ups so I can rely heavily on splat bombs to take out the RM carrier from a distance and to ink zones in...well...zones. It's a silly weapon and it isn't perfect, but it can be a lot of fun. If they up the ink coverage just a little bit more, it'll finally have a real place in this game.
Yup. Don't you ever again forget that Nintendo loves you, and they'll always take care of you. Your faith in Nintendo had waned, but now I see it increasing twofold, threefold; exponentially.
I'm painting myself into a corner here as the resident RBP fanboy, but it's an amazing weapon. I'm never going back to the RB unless both maps absolutely dictate a need for it. It's as if this game made a weapon specifically for me. It's everything I ever wanted in a weapon.
That makes sense. Considering RB was already the, what #2 competitive weapon? Splitting that in half is still a big number. Makes me cringe a little that I like a meta weapon if that's the case :P But it really is good and a lot of fun. It was in the first game, too. Particularly the Deco which is mostly what the vanilla here is.
Yeah, it's definitely better since the buff, but I still find I get splatted mid-splashdown about 30% of the time or more, which is really frustrating. And squids escape it about 40% of the time, including the times when I'm splatted. No other special seems to get you splatted so much. Maybe inkjet. But yeah, since most of my weps have splashdown I'm used to it. Blaster I kind of do the SJ thing you describe. Tuber I use it as a trap (nobody can resist rushing down a charger even if their head is glowing....even if you just splashdown trapped them a minute ago.... :P ) But sploosh.....yeah, the sj trap thing probably makes the most sense. More often that not I'm saving it and forget I'm saving it, and forget that I'm NOT stealthy while I'm saving it...... :P that's why I liked the wail with sploosh...you can go on annoy/harass campaigns and just drop a wail and keep going :)
Haha, at least someone of the upper ranks acknolwedges the merit of the "unloved" weapons. I think you're one of the very few! I just love these roles, but they're more complex roles. More importantly, they got rid of the death stat on the screen, but I still wish they removed the kill stat too. Too many people keep chasing the glory position of top kills. I find myself doing it constantly even though it's nonsensical. Most of these weapons (except dapples maybe) will never be the kill leader. But the 1:20 I spend keeping two squids dancing on the right side raceway of humpback as they try and fail to ever gain an inch to my tuber leaves me with 0-1 splats, and kept half the enemy team out of the game for a very long time :) It actually wastes more of their time than splatting them. :P (Meanwhile I look over and see the rest of my team still made no ground in mid.....but that's a different problem. :P ) I'm learning to be a VERY evasive tuber. I love that stored charge. Nothings got to be more frustrating than a slippery charger that keeps jumping and swimming and avoiding everything you throw at it, and it still has that darn charge trained on you every time they stand still :P They may be out of my range...but they also have to stay there. :P And flingza is much the same in that regard. Duelies are cooler than I initially thought. I didn't know about dodge-stance after dodge-roll until this week! But they're also a little more ordinary. I recall in S1 sploosh was unloved (Dolphin still doesn't love it ;) ), and then the ninja sploosh became a thing. Between dapple and sploosh I have a hard time figuring out which si the more interesting "weird" weapon you have to think a lot about how to use. But dapple with its roll gimmick (like the switch shot roller and stored charge charger) adds a second dimension...defintiely weapons for more experienced players that already had the basics under control and don't mind adding a bit of 2-stage thinking to the mix. Which is why they're so fun! If I didn't play S1 I'd probably hate the new weps as overcomplicated. The Dhalsims of Splatoon.
That's true, it's mostly just the fact that there are so many weapons I want to use (some of which aren't even out yet) but not enough time to master them, so some weapons have to go on the back burner - and it's usually the ones with a poor risk/reward ratio.
You probably have the other specials to thank. Most of them have had some big changes so they get talked about more. By contrast, the Tenta Missiles have had almost no changes and therefore have largely been left in the dust discussion-wise.
I'll be interested to see what happens in competitive matches with the RB and RBP for sure. Since the last patch, I've noticed fewer RB users in games (seemingly, many moved over to the sloshing machine or regular blasters at that point). But what people do in ranked or even, at times, league doesn't always indicate what competitive teams will do. It'll be interesting.
Haha, yeah I suffer from that same "Main *ALL* The Things!" problem :P As though my sig doesn't make that too obvious!
Yeah I keep getting 2 simultaneous tentamissle launches and by the time we all recover there's another launch. This time next month we'll all be chanting "nerf tentamissiles!" And then someone will defend them and point out the real problem one is the (since buffed) bubbles :P