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I'm afraid I have no clue what you're talking about. In your main posts or your edit.
The original PDF (latest version of my CalDialect guide) had <verb short form> several times to note when it should be used, but in the guide, in the CalDialect section, they are removed. All but the first reference, detailing what the form is.

And the edits were just side references.
 

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The original PDF (latest version of my CalDialect guide) had <verb short form> several times to note when it should be used, but in the guide, in the CalDialect section, they are removed. All but the first reference, detailing what the form is.
That doesn't ring a bell. All I did when adding your Calimari County dialect description was reformat, not change/add/remove any words. If you'd like me to add this, PM me what exactly I should add and where.
 

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With how liberal I am taking CalDialect, does it warrant slang back at Inkopolis?
 

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It's gone eerily quiet on here... I'll break the silence by pointing out some errors in the PDF!

Page 14 - {gačí šipáwe} Rank Battle: latter half should be {šipúwe}, both in character and in the pronunciation, to match our original word for battle (on page 11)
Page 26: 'To Relax' and 'To Be at Rest' are in the wrong section (should be with the rest of the verbs that aren't derived using {koi}, on page 24)

Now for some new words:

Verbs

{físe} - To Fly, To Soar (this is another one of those words that I'm surprised we haven't got yet)
{uyáfise} - To Glide, To Hang-glide
{muŧá} - To Grab, To Grip
{rúye} - To Grow
{iséda} - To Suggest
{enára} - To Work
{méyu} - To Sleep
{hagikói} - To Be Natural (derived)
{kábokoi} - To Plant (derived)
{iyoŧábokoi} - To Photosynthesise (derived)
{žodamekói} - To Overshadow (derived)
{iyúžikoi} - To Be Free (derived)
{žoiyúžikoi} - To Be Trapped, To Be Imprisoned, To Be Incarcerated (derived)

Nouns

{hági} - Nature
{kábo} - Plant
{dagábo} - Tree
{dagái} - Forest (shortened from 'dagábopai', which just seemed too long for a word this common)
{iyoŧábo} - Leaf
{žodáme} - Shadow, Shade
{iyúži} - Freedom
{žoiyúži} - Imprisonment
{enaró} - Work (shortened from the classic derived {enáraro}, due to it seeming a tad too long for such a common word)
{ráyupai} - Hotel (derived)
{fiséro} - Flight (derived)
{uyafiséro} - Gliding, Hang-gliding (derived)
{muŧáro} - Grip (derived)
{ruyéro} - Growth (derived)
{isédaro} - Suggestion (derived)
{méyuro} - Sleep (derived)
{méyutu} - Bed (derived)
{méyupai} - Bedroom (derived)


Adjectives

{hagišái} - Natural (derived)
{žodámešai} - Shaded (derived)
{fisešái} - Going Smoothly, Without Issue (as in 'The book's going great!' -> 'Eyóme si fisešái!') (derived)
{iyúžišai} - Free (as in freedom) (derived)
{žoiyúžišai} - Trapped, Imprisoned, Incarcerated (derived)
{muŧášai} - Engaging, Gripping (derived)

Prepositions

{ku} - Into (for use with verbs where 'into' isn't implied directly; e.g. 'I jumped into a pit.' -> 'I sotú rutú ku nádo.')
{di} - In (used like 'by means of', in the sense of 'He spoke IN a different language.' -> 'Zói mibói rutú di betú bói.'). If we use {ri} for this purpose already (currently the word for 'in' in a directional sense), ignore this one.

Idioms

{hagizói} - A person who loves nature, Hippie

Phew, that should be enough for now. Sorry about swamping the forum again!

@PiyozR Oh, and by the way, how is the Inkling comic going? You mentioned it a while ago, but not since. Is it going smoothly?
 
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It's gone eerily quiet on here... I'll break the silence by pointing out some errors in the PDF!
Yes, it has. I made your corrections and am now going to heat up some leftover pizza (R.I.P. in pizzaroni) and add all your vocab. I think we have words for some of your new vocab, but at this point it's perfectly fine to add synonyms. I'll try and upload this new version soon. As always, thanks for your contribution!

A fun addition: A term for "countryfolk" or "a redneck" is {achan}, which employs the {n} letter that Eclipse created.

EDIT: I added idioms for spawn-camping and spawn-campers as "ink forest" and "ink tree" respectively.

Oh, and by the way, how is the Inkling comic going? You mentioned it a while ago, but not since. Is it going smoothly?
Any energy and free time not going into Xenoblade Chronicles X has gone into the comic. It's coming along very smoothly! I'm all the way up to penning page five of eight. After I scan, edit, and translate everything, I'm going to post it on here.

On Monday I plan on meeting with my friend to deliver her the list of Inkling characters used throughout the videos. She's been totally swamped with finals lately. She should be (relatively) free.
 
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In regards to {n}, was my description accurate to replicate: "hiragana ko with a stroke under?"

Or did you go through old stuff and find it?
 

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Oh, damn, just realised that {físe} is already the word for 'to stand'. Well... How about we replace the word 'to fly' with {fíše} instead? I'm allowed to, right? It's my word! Of course, all of the devired words would also have to change:

{uyafíse} - To Glide --> {uyafíše}
{fiséro} - Flight --> {fišéro}
{uyafiséro} - Gliding --> {uyafišéro}
{fisešái} - Without Issue --> {fišešái}

Also, a little typo: on page 23, {koiwai} should be spelt in characters 'koi' 'wai', not 'koi' 'wa' 'i'. This also needs correcting on page 40.
 

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Also, a little typo: on page 23, {koiwai} should be spelt in characters 'koi' 'wai', not 'koi' 'wa' 'i'. This also needs correcting on page 40.
<sigh> This is why a moraic based script like Japanese hiragana is much easier to work with.

It is one of the reasons why I made the [*ie] characters into [*ya] in Calamari, along with the [*oi] to [*on] element, because those could be rendered with [*o] and [*i] [e].

To remove further redundancies in Calamari, I might consider removing those characters. Use of them would be archaic.

So to form something like [zon], one would use [zo] [n] rather than [zon]. Perhaps those can exist in the script's compressed mode.


EDIT: Don't forget vowel-y-vowel. I also removed that for the same reason, keeping it merely to [ya]-[yu]-[ye]-[yo].
 
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@piboy430 I noticed that "fly" was a homophone with "stand" when I added it. At this point, I don't see that as a huge problem. I made those changes anyway. Gonna spend the rest of the night on that comic.

Inkopolis University Video Lesson Update:


I just spoke face-to-face with my friend last night. Her semester is over now so she will have much more free time to work on the videos. This is the first serious video project that either of us has ever worked on. I'm anticipating lots of frustrating trial and error. I'm going to try to keep you all apprised to updates and our general progress as these videos come along. I'll try to get my hands on a demo of the introduction when I can just to give you all a rough idea of what the series will be like. For now, some take-away points:
  • Since it was a busy fall semester for my friend, we hardly had the chance to talk. This gave me some extra weeks to streamline the script to the nth degree. Thank God, too, the original episode scripts were horrible.
  • To my surprise, the videos themselves won't be that long. I was planning two-and-a-half to five minutes each. Most won't even be that long. I'm pretty proud of how concise and clean these lessons are. Then again, we made this to be the simplest conlang possible.
  • Remember: all of the audio is already recorded and all the visuals are collected (pretty sure, at least). It was tough enough to enunciate with my English. Imagine having to switch from clearly-pronounced English to clearly-pronounced Inkling. I bet I flubbed plenty of the Inkling examples. Sorry.
  • We're planning on uploading all ten of them at once.
  • Early or mid-January is our target time for release. That will give us time to work on it, celebrate some Christmas, and then take another look at everything after a break.
  • The Facebook and YouTube are up. We're probably going to set up the Tumblr when the videos come out.
  • You're a kid now you're a squid now
  • Considering that we made so much more content since I wrote these lessons, we could easily create more lessons if there's enough demand for it. We'll cross that bridge if or when we come to it.
  • I was planning on joining team Pizza last weekend. Good thing I didn't. I was too busy with Xenoblade.
 

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I was hungry, so I'm here with word proposals.

{záiya.ro} meal [to eat + noun suffix]
{záiya.ro-dáoyu} mealtime [meal + time]

"Mealtime" may not sound so useful, but it can be combined to make more useful words:
{zaománi záiryaro (daoyu)} breakfast (time) [morning meal]
{zomídi ...} lunch (time) [afternoon meal]
{henái ...} supper (time), dinner (time) [night meal]
{zapí ...} light meal, snack [small meal]

Since Hamburger vs Pizza happened, can we have words for more food items, and perhaps even for food groups and nutrition terms like "carbohydrates"? Having only a random few like "bowl" and "spice" feels weird to me.

New Words Proposed
Types of Food
buffet, all-you-can-eat
fat, oil
fish
frozen food
grain
instant food
junk food
meat
noodle
packed lunch (bentō)
paste
protein
school lunch
solid food
vegetable
vegetarian

Actions and Descriptors Related to Food
to cook
to mix
to stir-fry
to deep-fry
to boil in water
to juice
to blend
to heat
to bake
to drink
to chop
to slice
to dice
to freeze
to thaw
to waste food or resources (to do something mottainai)
delicious: good, to taste, >adj
bad-tasting: bad, to taste, >adj
hungry
full
healthy
unhealthy
with umami
with oleogustus, fatty
gluttonous (so we can translate the "gluttonous corner" thing)

Food Items
anko (sweet adzuki bean paste):
apple:
bacon:
banana:
bean:
butter:
cake: fruit, bread
candy:
caramel:
carrot:
cereal:
cheese: fermented, milk
chocolate:
cinnamon:
coffee:
cola: caramel, soda
cookie: hard, small, bread
cream:
custard:
curry:
dressing (salad):
egg:
frappé, shaved ice, slushie, whatever else you call it:
French toast:
fries (US), chips (UK):
grape:
ham:
hamburger: bread, meat, to layer, >noun
hot dog: bread, meat, long, to wrap, >noun
ice:
ice cream: ice, milk
jam:
juice: fruit, water
lemon:
lettuce:
mayonnaise:
Mandarin orange (mikan):
miso (fermented soybean paste):
mochi (rice cake):
naan:
onion:
orange:
peanut:
peanut butter:
pear:
pepper:
pizza:
porridge:
potato:
ramen:
rice ball (onigiri):
rusk:
sandwich: bread, to layer, >noun
salad: vegetable, to mix, >noun
Salisbury steak ("hanbāgu"):
salt:
sashimi:
sauce:
sausage: meat, long, >noun
smoothie:
soda: already there but
soup:
soy sauce:
syrup, nectar:
spaghetti:
steak:
strawberry:
sushi:
tartar sauce:
toast: bread, hot, >noun
tofu: fermented, bean, white, >noun
tomato:
whipped cream:
yogurt: fermented, water, milk, >noun

Utensils and Tools
bottle
bowl
chopsticks
cup
fork
freezer
glass
kitchen knife
kitchen timer
ladle
refrigerator
rice cooker
pan
plastic wrap
plate
platter
pot
spoon
tupperware

Places
bar
café
cafeteria
dining room
fast food stand
kiosk
kitchen
restaurant
Well, that was a lot.
 

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I have never dabbled in them. Though I might........

What is dropoff, anyway?
Copy-and-paste the following into Categories:
C=rkpstgbzdnmšžhč
V=aiueo
D=123
S=456789áéíóúýàèìòùỳäë
1|ai
2|oi
3|ie
4|uno
5|ise
6|ena
7|ati
8|ane
9|ota
aa|a
ee|e
ii|i
oo|o
uu|u
á|eyo
é|eya
í|eyu
ó|uye
ú|uya
ý|uyo
à|ayo
è|ayu
ì|oye
ò|iyo
ù|oya
ỳ|iya
ä|oyu
ë|iyu
CV
V
CD

I selected Output type: Big-аѕѕ wordlist, Dropoff: Slow, and Monosyllables: Less frequent. This gives you some possible Inkling words, such as: osa, bera, ziešai, sugeruku, and zopaiti.

EDIT: Dropoff is just the probability the letters at the top of the list are selected over the ones at the bottom.
 
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Guys. Guys. Our version of Inkling is missing a big word: television. And basically every other entertainment-related word.

I'll just name a few:

Television-related
documentary
game show
genre
infomercial
live
music video
news
newspaper
program
reality TV
remote
set
sit-com
studio
television
TV station

Internet-related
advertisement
ad blocker
app
blog
chat
computer
deviantART
dislike / downvote
e-mail
Facebook
4Chan
in-app purchase
Instagram
Internet
like / "Yeah!" / upvote
Miiverse
news app
operating system
Pixiv
Reddit
share / retweet / reblog
social network
Squidboards
SquidPhone
Tablet
Tumblr
Twitter
YouTube

Game-related
action game
board game
crappy game
mobile game
music game / rhythm game
puzzle game
retro game
role-playing game
sports game
Shufflepuck (so we can translate that one Dutch Marie)

Music-related
beat
beats per minute
bridge
bubblegum music
build
classical music
chiptune
chorus
concert
dance
dance hall
drop
electronic music
elevator music
funk music
key signature
hip hop music
house music
jazz music
lyrics
measure / bar
metal music
mixtape
pop music
punk rock music
rap music
rock music
tempo
time signature
traditional/folk music
verse
 

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EDIT: Dropoff is just the probability the letters at the top of the list are selected over the ones at the bottom.
Firstly, what I meant was I need both of your word creation power for the Octoling language.

Second of all, what would be etaoin shrldu in both languages?
 

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Since the character {n} is only used for loanwords (at least in the main dialect), can train be {densha} considering that was originally a Japanese loanword?

Another note: in regards to foreign proper nouns (Reddit, 4Chan, et.al.), let's just keep them as loanwords.

Also, here (is my first long word list in a while):
* {souda}: Internet slang for "like".
* {pachi}: to mangle
* {bada}: to do something with no reasoning
* {yumasu}: Time signature
* {konpieuta}: Loanword for computer.
* {numazu}: to mistake
* {namazu}: to zap

I can tell I am running out of ideas for this project.
 

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I think that we shouldn't have too many loanwords. Or at least what ones we do have shouldn't be carbon copies of the word we adapted it from.

@PiyozR Now to take care of some of those words @theFIZZYnator suggested in his first post (the one on food). I won't do the words in the 'Food Items' section, only the others. Any ones that I've missed we either have already (such as 'to heat' and 'full') or you could easily say with the words that we already have (such as 'school lunch'). I'll also throw in some new words of my own (not necessarily food related, though).

Right. Here we go. Brace yourself for another forum-swamp:

Nouns

{gáize} - Drink (this and the next one were created from 'máme gáize')
{máme} - Alcohol
{máezai} - Buffet
{šóbu} - Fat
{bárua} - Oil
{héšumezai} - Frozen Food
{mókuŧa} - Grain
{néši} - Seed
{zákuzai} - Instant Food
{žošétazai} - Junk Food
{šetáro} - Health (derived)
{biánu} - Meat
{médu} - Noodle
{gáfuzai} - Packed Lunch, Bentō
{gáfutu} - Container (derived), Pot, Pan
{gáfuro} - Contents (derived)
{žéno} - Paste (food)
{kóženo} - Glue (shortening of 'kóža žéno' (lit. artificial paste))
{pataší} - Protein
{kiné} - Fruit (shortening of 'ki néši' (lit. with seed))
{šáiyo} - Vegetable
{žešáiyozoi} - Vegetarian
{zúso} - Juice
{kefá} - Coffee
{kefápai} - Café (derived)
{uyakefápai} - Cafeteria (derived)
{obáoro} - Hunger (derived)
{zaiyáze} - Restaurant (lit. eat building)
{hóči} - Information
{zaiyápai} - Dining Room (derived)
{uyaríta} - Shop
{ríta} - Trade
{tádo} - Kiosk
{zoúya} - Chopsticks
{zaiyúši} - Plate
{tóbero} - Bottle (derived)
{tobétu} - Trap (derived)
{gaizótu} - Cup (derived)
{daóyutu} - Timer (derived)
{táikaro} - Solid (state of matter), Rigidity, Hardness (derived)
{suitáro} - Liquid (state of matter), Flow (derived)
{tákiro} - Gas (state of matter), Inflation (of a balloon, of an economy, etc.) (derived)
{šúsatu} - Fork (derived)
{kičátu} - Knife (derived)
{kusétu} - Spoon (derived)
{kuítoro} - Cooking (derived)
{kuítopai} - Kitchen (derived)
{ratéro} - Frying (derived)
{kúbapai} - Bakery (derived)
{kubáro} - Baking (derived)
{zeáketu} - Blender (derived)
{tabóžuro} - Evaporation, Boiling (derived)
{turítu} - Screen (derived)
{čirítu} - Computer (an alternative to Eclipse's derived word, if you choose to use it) (shortened from 'display information device') (derived)
{čakíburo} - Derivation (derived)

Verbs

{kuíto} - To Cook
{ežámi} - To Mix
{raté} - To Fry
{ežáte} - To Stir-fry (combining 'to mix' and 'to fry')
{bárate} - To Deep-fry (combining 'oil' and 'to fry')
{tabóžu} - To Boil, Evaporate
{zeáke} - To Blend
{kúba} - To Bake
{gáizo} - To Drink (HOW HAVE WE NOT GOT THIS ONE YET‽)
{kičá} - To Chop, Cut
{gížo} - To Slice
{héšume} - To Freeze
{anokái} - To Thaw
{gáfu} - To Contain
{turí} - To Display
{čakíbu} - To Derive
{tóbe} - To Capture, Bottle
{šúsa} - To Impale
{kusé} - To Scoop
{zúsokoi} - To Juice (derived)
{kédekoi} - To Dice (lit. to cube, see below) (derived)
{suitákoi} - To Flow (derived)
{tákikoi} - To Inflate (derived)
{hóčikoi} - To Inform (derived)
{mísukoi} - To Corner, Trap (derived)
{rítakoi} - To Trade (derived)

Adjectives

{zakú} - Instant, Immediate
{šóbušai} - Fatty
{šéta} - Healthy
{žošéta} - Unwell, Unhealthy, Ill
{fuzaiyó} - Gluttonous
{kóža} - Artificial, Man-made (squid-made?)
{gafušái} - Contained, Encapsulated (derived)
{kinešái} - Fruitful, Fertile (derived)
{hóčišai} - Informative (derived)
{čakíbušai} - Derived (derived)
{táika} - Solid, Hard, Rigid
{suitá} - Liquid, Flowing
{táki} - Gaseous

Shape Words (all of these are nouns)

{táči} - Shape
{mísu} - Corner, Vertex
{takáo} - Face (shape)
{širá} - Edge (shortened to 'ši' when put after a number to make the name of a shape)
{úši} - Circle (lit. one side)
{čáši} - Triangle (lit. three side)
{déši} - Square (lit. four side)
{kéde} - Cube (lit. 'six four', as a cube has six faces and each side has four edges)
{dečá} - Tetrahedron, Pyramid (lit. 'four three', for the same logic as above)

'Derived' has stopped sounding like a word to me now...

I'll do Fizzy's second post when I can.

EDIT: Oh, and @EclipseMT, since in Standard Inkling there is no {yu} character, may I request {yumasu} be altered to {áyumasu}.
 
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